My son (18y/0)finally shot a bow. After hearing me talk about all the bulls I see every year archery hunting and him chasing them for the little 5 day gun season a few years and seeing all cows and spikes finally gave in. He shot the first 5 or 6 pretty much all over. I only gave him a couple pointers to avoid getting on his nerves. With a release too small and the sights set for me he put his last 4 arrows in a 3in circle from 20yds. Not in the "spot" but, I explained the sight set up and his accomplishment. Looks like a bow for his graduation gift for sure. Guy near by pretty much carries the whole line of Martin bows and has the entire 2012 line at a good price, prolly take a good look at them since they're made a few hours from here plus, I like my saber.