We need an aldeer meet ....we could invite ivory man. I have 2 kids 9and 7 years old. I take one of them every time I hunt, and would not have it any other way. If you dont involve kids this sport that we love so much will eventually fade away. I love my 6 point or better club and since we are idiots in his book , he can take his land .....turn it sideways and shove it square up his arse.....and i would bet over half of his members would help shove it in