Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by gobbler
Good Night! Could you provide ANY references that would support your argument. Talk about pulling ##'s out of your butt!


Most all studies on rodents show their populations linked to rainfall……I don’t know that any have been done specifically in Alabama but you can pick and choose for yourself which one you want to disagree with.


Most everything is linked to rainfall and mostly positive correlation. The problem is you always take it 2 or 3 degrees more without supporting data, in this case linking avian predation and poults to both rainfall and rodent populations as if increased rainfall is responsible for higher poult survival because of higher rodents populations. Might be true but it may also be that higher rodent populations cause higher nest predation rates or more rainfall cause increased insect populations increasing poult food supply or better nesting cover increasing nest success or better cover for poults while they are feeding increasing survival...........

Originally Posted by gobbler
Same, Why OH Why would Jackson and Cleburne co's be exempt from avian predator pressure?? rolleyes Yea, had to use the rolleyes, haven't used it since 49r


Originally Posted by CNC
If you’ll read it again you’ll see that it said “not as limited”……..meaning not effected as much…….instead of “exempt” as you choose to mischaracterize it. The way y’all choose to purposely take things out of context is very telling.


OK, Why OH why would Jackson and Cleburne co's be not as limited from avian predator pressure?? rolleyes

Originally Posted by gobbler
We have increased in forest land and decreased in open cow pastures, hay fields and ag lands. I can provide a reference if you wish


Originally Posted by CNC
Post up your study about land use if you want but if avian predators are increasing then it would only stand to reason that their main food sources are as well. There's certainly no shortage of open land no matter how you want to label it.


"For instance, agricultural lands have decreased by about 27% while timberlands and urban lands have increased by about 8% and 13% respectively from 1972 to 2000 [6]. Within the timbered landscape, hardwoods constituted the highest in the 1970s; however, recent timberland outlooks show that softwoods have increased relative to hardwoods [7]."

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4907/14/2/171

Originally Posted by CNC
Its pretty apparent that "what's best for turkey" is taking a back seat to what's best for everyone's personal agenda.


Agendas here? Didn't realize I had an agenda

Last edited by gobbler; 06/09/23 06:57 PM.

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