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Re: Question Number One
[Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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08/06/12 11:45 AM
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I don't think the limit had anything to do with ratios. I've seen way to many studies and such to convince me it was ever as bad as most think and I was as hardcore a 25:1 guy as anyone here a few years ago.
... That is my opinion of why, which is all it is. It's a bad opinion. Even Dan Moultrie could see that you were way off base: May, 2007 CAB Minutes 3 MR. CHAIRMAN: I have one 4 question about this just to make sure. 5 Again, we want all the questions to be 6 asked. If we are looking at 2005, 7 2006 harvest, total harvest is close 8 to 441,000; is that correct? 9 MR. MOODY: Yes. 10 MR. CHAIRMAN: You are showing 11 280,000 bucks, 236,000 does. That is 12 doe and buck harvest? 13 MR. MOODY: Yes, it's about 47, 14 53, I think. 15 MR. CHAIRMAN: I took a 16 population dynamic, the number that is 17 1,500,000 animals. You said -- 18 MR. MOODY: We have used a 19 million seven, a million eight 20 consistently for several years. 21 MR. CHAIRMAN: Just for 22 agreement, a million five. We can 23 change that if you want to. 0127 1 And if our buck to doe ratio was 2 one to one -- again, I ask the board 3 to please listen to what Mr. Moody has 4 to say, what Dr. Ditchkoff has to say. 5 This is a critical issue with the 6 state, and so if we have this 7 population dynamic, and we have a one 8 to one buck/doe ratio, we have 750,000 9 does, 750,000 bucks; is that correct? 10 MR. MOODY: Yes. If you had one 11 to one, yeah. But the population 12 dynamic doesn't work that way because 13 of the reproductive rate and the 14 number -- 15 MR. CHAIRMAN: Mortality rate and 16 other things? 17 We are talking about in 18 generality if it was one to one, that 19 would be approximately what it would 20 be. 21 Let's go down to six to one. The 22 problem may be not as bad as it is in 23 some areas, not as good as it is in 0128 1 some areas. 2 If the population dynamic shows a 3 six to one buck to doe ratio, you 4 would have a population of 1,285,715. 5 MR. GOODWYN: Mr. Moultrie, when 6 you turn your head you are missing the 7 microphone. 8 MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay. And on the 9 bucks, we would show a population of 10 214,285. Now, if it was six to one, 11 and again we can use -- we don't have 12 any idea of the buck to doe ratio. If 13 it was six to one which seems to be -- 14 you said it was four to one or 15 greater, we just killed every buck in 16 this state, Mr. Moody. We just killed 17 almost every buck in the state because 18 we have got 214,285. Our survey shows 19 that we killed 280,000 bucks. 20 How do we address that?
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