I tried to tell you before youre spoiled. 13 is the most ive ever seen at one time and that was in a 100acre area, they werent all grazing together. You dont know how lucky you are to have the deer density you have. When I first got on here I was amazed how many people said they werent seeing deer regularly. I see them regularly, the numbers just aint there and youre gona set a while if you want to kill a good one, might not get a chance every year.