I bought an Orca 20 and 58 on a promo sale for near the price of an Rtic when Yeti and the NRA had their falling out. i use the 20 all the time in this heat even left in the cab of the truck it holds ice for a couple days in a regular cooler itll be nothing but water by noon. the 58 is a beast on long trips once you pack it its good for a week or more