My daddy and grandaddy were both very good the both of them knew things knowbody knows anymore. Daddy fished tounaments but never won but a few small ones and pawpaw refused to fish them...said he didnt like the idea of having to catch fish with money on the line...for our area they were unmatched in their day..id like to fish with them again...id take voice recorders..video cameras..and lots of notes😀