Originally Posted by doekiller
Originally Posted by WmHunter
I call bullcrap on your bullcrap.

Nothing in terms of adultery, divorce, out of wedlock childbirth, welfare abuse and dependency, divorce and custody battles that never end, and other family and social ills as we have now existed on the current scale before the 1960s.
Nothing.
And we didn't have abortion and LGBTQ back then either.
Or kids shooting up schools.

You need to go back to school and read some history and sociology books.

And learn what a non sequitur is.

Prior to 1960, there were a lot of out of wedlock babies. People just were not proud of them. Abortions have been around for a lot longer than the last 60 years. They just were not legal in most places. That doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. My grandfather was a doctor. One of the other doctors at the hospital that he was buddy’s with was the abortion doctor in Birmingham in the 1950s. He say all the prostitutes and treated their STDs as well.

I promise you there were gays since the dawn of time, they just mostly hid it. It is much like metal retardation. People sent them away, or if it was obvious at birth, many doctors made sure the baby didn’t make it and to,d the parents it dies during child birth. Again, I got that fist hand from my grandfather who was chief of staff at a large hospital.

Divorce, you are correct. It didn’t happen back then. Mostly because they stayed in loveless marriages. I can think of at least 10 of my friends growing up whose grandparents had separate bedrooms because they couldn’t stand each other.

School shootings go back to the 1800s. Two issues with them, we hear about everything that happens in the world now. 30 years ago, we didn’t hear about crap that happened in other parts of the country. The 24 hour news cycle created the Image that violence is up. It is very much the opposite. Much like Chicago, the number of shooting and killings there is a shadow of what it was in the 1970s. But, you didn’t hear about it then, because it didn’t pertain to your area. Second, more people are killed in schools numbers wise because the the effectiveness of modern firearms.

I don’t need to read a book. I Am 45 years old, have a bachelors and a masters in history.

You are a broken record. Everything is because of Jews, athiest and Marxist. You need to crack a book not written by one of your crazy ultra right wing nut jobs who twist things to fit their agenda.


You are showing your liberal colors again.
And your history degrees aren't worth the paper they are written on.

I didn't say there was no adultery or even homos before the 1960s.
Your reading comprehension skills are poor.
All I did is point out a statistical historical fact of major moral decline and increase in countless social ills since and as a result of the secularist Cultural Revolution of the 1960s.

Such as 50 million abortions.
A very high divorce rate.
STD rates sky rocketed.
ACT and SAT scores went down.
The out of wedlock birthrate for whites went from the ancient and historical 1% rate to todays 30% rate.
The black out of wedlock birthrate went from 20% to 75%.
The nationwide out of wedlock birthrate is now 43% - almost half of American children are illegitimate.
Welfare dependency is rampant.
Single family homes are the majority, and most children grow up in a home with just a single mother and no father in the house.
The RATES of adultery increased DRAMATICALLY. And especially with women, whereas it used to be primarily men.
And there was no LGBTQ propaganda or "Gay" marriage either back then - and they weren't adopting children either.
Or "transgenders" adopting kids or having them by surrogate so they could try to dress the kid and make them the opposite gender of what they were born.
Feminism and all its anti-family agendas.

Promiscuity and STDs are rampant. And this thread started about a complaint about a bad woman.
If you look at how terrible so many people act and behave today it flows out of the messages and movements of the 1960s - and you have men and women behaving badly.
Using each other in unbiblical ways. Destroying people and families. Causing social illness and depression for millions.

You don't even know rudimentary history, or how to read and understand history. If you did you would know that all movements and ideas have a beginning. They are started by some person or persons or groups. Just as we know exactly who started the American Revolution - the Founding Fathers, or who started and created Nazi Germany or Communist Russia, or Christianity or who conquered this or that, we just look at history and know who did and said what.

The same is true for all the atheistic, secularist, Marxist and other revolutionary movements of the 20th century which continue to this day, including Cultural Marxism and all the open borders Globalist movements, and now we see anti-White racism rising quite dramatically the past several years. There is always the people starting,calling for, promoting, propagandizing for and fighting for these movements and agendas. And you can read about them in any normal regular history book or learned treatise, not "right wing radical" websites - of which I don't subscribe to or visit and don't care about.

You can engage in all the liberal name calling that you want but it won't change that history.
Nor solve any of this country's deep rooted social, cultural and political problems.



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