IMO, they are all "shooters". We don't manage heavily. 8pt or better is the rule. We strongly suggest letting younger deer walk, but it's not a rule. Even if we were managing for 4.5 year olds or older, these are all at least 4.5. I have a lot of mature bucks that are shooters that I can scheme to outwit. I'm grateful for that. Wishing for that shonuff big daddy is just that, hoping and wishing. I got a nice one last year...one that will be hard to top any time soon.

Got these two on cam too.