Those are good deer. The problem that I ran into last year is I have a good buck walk by and I think to myself, "Dang that would be a good one for Savannah (12 year old daughter) or Wynne (10 year old son)" and I end up letting them walk. I will try not to do that this year so I can kill something and get us some points. I haven't shot a deer in 3 years but I have let my kids shoot 4 good 8 points. I wish we could use a deer that our child killed if we were sitting with them.