Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by Todd1700
The CDC, the World Health Organization, and the American Academy of Pediatric Doctors, none of which are a pharmaceutical company, are in universal agreement that there isn't a shread, not a sliver, of credible evidence that vaccinations have anything to do with autism. And I can assure you that the CDC and the World Health Organization don't give two s#*@s about boosting profits at Eli Lily or Bristol-Myers Squibb. It appears to be mostly genetic. For example if one identical twin is diagnosed as autistic the other has a 76% chance that they will be autistic as well. That number falls dramatically with fraternal twins. That one example alone is strong evidence for a genetic link. It is also very wrong to think that the only studies that have been conducted on this matter where conducted by pharmaceutical companies. That's just not true. This has been looked at by many research groups with no links to big pharmaceutical companies. The Dutch just concluded another huge multi-year study that also found no link to vaccines.

Unfortunately the first signs of autism often do not manifest themselves until children have reached an age where they have already recieved vaccinations. We humans tend to engage in direct linear thinking. In other words if I develope some problem today then it must have been caused by whatever happened just prior to it. Can that be true? Sure, but often it isn't. For example I cannot tell you how many people come into our ER with nausea and vomiting convinced that the restaurant they just left that evening gave them food poisoning. Problem is that food poisoning is a bacterial infection that takes time to develope. The most rapid onset of symptoms possible is about 8 hours. And many types of food poisoning take a day or more to kick in after eating the contaminated food. So yeah, they might have food poisoning but they didn't get it from the place they were at an hour ago. But you will never convince them of that. Nope, that's when and where they first felt sick so that's who did it to them. And me, the doctor and our whole outfit can go f### ourselves if we don't agree with them.



Another question more or less, my wife works with some psychs, they have long going discussion as to whether there is actually more cases or the diagnosis are finally catching up to what is really out there?


The so-called explosion in autism can basically be explained by two things. First of all as you mentioned they are doing a much better job of diagnosing it now. Whenever somebody hears the word autism their mind automatically jumps to the most severe regressive form of it. But there are forms of autism that are very mild and used to go undiagnosed. Many people with some types of autism complete school; have jobs; drive; excetera; excetera. Secondly back in the 90s a lot of growth and developmental disorders were reclassified as a form of autism. On paper statistically it looked like we just had an explosion in autism when really we are just now calling a whole host of other disorders autism that we didn't used to.


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