I normally throw a belly weighted rig up shallow. 1/8 oz. you can fish it just like a spinnerbait, and if you pinch the hook point just under the skin on the back, it will come threw vegetation like it’s not there. On ledges I normally fish A dirty jig head or revenge jig head in 1/2 or 3/4 oz. Up shallow I like to fish it erratic like a swim jig, it causes the bait to almost look injured and like it’s trying to flee, they hit it very hard, and normally you see the fish hit it. I also like to swim it erratic out deep on ledges and have found that the swim bait gets better bites than the cranks or other baits I’m chunking, also helps to fire the school up. Meant to add to use a screw lock on the shallow rig up, saves a lot of headache from straitening the lure and you won’t lose as many when fighting fish. Also, up shallow I throw it on 40 to 50lb braid