Ive heard people having a lot of problems with the banded waders. tearing very easy, seams leaking. Could be from them being too hard on them idk, but its several different guys saying it. Ive got cabelas Superman’s right now, but my fat ass has torn the seams and ill have to get a new pair. Ive heard that the frog togg grand refuge with the zip in liner were awesome. Just don’t know how good they would be to walk in, all I’ve ever own were neoprene.