well, for the second time in two weeks this past Friday I've had a 5 year old buck at 30 yards and haven't sealed the deal. I was looking at him through my peep sight about to release the arrow and he winded me. he was circling down wind of me and I was pressing for a shot. it was a huge let down but I watched him make a rub and two scrapes so it was an entertaining hunt. I won't be back after them until after christmas due to traveling. good luck if yall get the chance to go