A stihl ms290 with a 20" bar is hard to beat for a all around saw. Me and my brother both one when that model was the farm boss. We've used them for fence row clean up,fall trees, work up fire wood, clean up the hunting property. Mines 10 years old his is 8 years old. I'm on my second bar and he just put a new bar on his last year. They're both german made saws are the new ones still made in germany?