Hal told me the range one was killed with 10s. He didn't wanna say it so I won't either, but it was pretty far.

Everything I thought about tss when I started using it 10 years ago was wrong. I thought Hal's first 2 oz load at 1100 fps was too slow, so I put it in a 3.5" hull and sped it up to 1250. It was a waste of time and money.

I thought 9s were too small and I needed 8s to get good penetration. I was wrong; the 9s have plenty and the increased pattern density probably makes it better on even a longer shot. And now info is coming in that the 10s still have plenty of penetration.

You young guys with steady hands and good eyes may want those high numbers in the 10 ring, but I want a wider killing pattern so that I never again have that sick feeling after missing a turkey.