jibuc10, I see bucks on A LOT of my hunts but I hunt a large area where hunters don't shoot bucks under 3 yrs of age. My club targets 4 yr old bucks but the surrounding land has some pretty good buck mins with TEETH in their rules against adult hunters shooting young bucks.

Hunters' greed, a lack of self-discipline and restraint, dishonesty, etc... will really hurt your buck pops. Ethicality in hunting club members is just as important as the rules themselves. I am happy with my hunting club... with our doe and buck numbers and with my opportunity to shoot mature bucks and my son has already shot a 125" ten pt this year! And really, that's my joy. AND, my son understands restraint, discipline and the joy of watching immature bucks. He also understands deer mgmt and harvest (killing!) decisions are based on what's best for the herd and not HIS desires to burn powder.