I use military BDU's here in Oregon... They last several years and the GIANT stickers (briers) do not pull threads out. My buddy got a pair of Sitka's this past year and I could see the threads pulling out. Trails, open terrain, sitting in a tree, I think the Sitka's would be fine. If ya want light, the brands you mention are definitely the way to go. Lots of guys on the east side use the light stuff.