There are some great differences to what most people on this board believe and what is actually true. Your not going to "hear" about the places in this state that do grow, hold, and harvest deer in the 150" + category. Plain and Simple Fact. I personally believe the reason most average hunters only see and believe that 120" deer are about the normal is because of the style of hunting they are doing. When you are sitting on a greenfield in December for 2-3 hours, even in a top tier place, a 120" deer is about the biggest you can expect and therefor you believe that is about the biggest on the property. When you work on one of these "top tier" places, you obviously are there year round and see WAY more than the weekend hunter/owner/guest, etc. Naturally, the biggest deer are typically going to be killed during the very early gun season or during the rut. The biggest deer were always seen feeding on soy bean leaves during the summer. When you can sit on a bean field in August/Septemer during the evening and watch NUMEROUS deer that would make your jaw absolutely drop and you would swear you were in the Midwest, then you know what size deer you actually have. Camera and 200# feeder locations of 25+ run the full off season would RARELY catch the "big" deer. Why? Great question, Leary? Maybe, but the feeders have been there for over a decade. The exact same buck would literally grow up on camera year after year, but somewhere around 4.5-5.5 years old he would vanish. Some things will never change on any property, I don't care whether it is "top tier" with literally hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on anything and everything or a 100 acre tract with natural browse. Pressure effects deer more than anything, especially gun shots. A bow hunting only area will CONSISTENTLY shoot more/larger bucks over X amount of time and the hardest of all to really get most hunters to understand - a true "giant" 99% of the time is NOT going to walk out on a greenfield to feed during the daylight. There are more places in this state than you will ever know where 150" deer are killed every year and numerous deer that size as well. How many that size every year?, way too many variables come into play. A true, "top tier" place that is highly manged can/will/ and do watch 150" deer throughout the year and know that those can be considered "dinks" as to what is really out there. I personally don't think a 150" deer is REMOTELY a "dink", but if you have hunted a piece of property for years and have shot 6-8 that size then most want something larger.