that a shot deer would run up hill and away from a briar thicket instead of down hill and dead in the middle of one. Its bad enough to have to drag one up hill but to spend 45 minutes crawling through briars to find it first just makes it worse. I think I'm bleeding worse than the deer. my second this year, about biggest one I've shot so far, especially for a doe. Twenty yards, stalk hunt, Ar15 M4, 77g V max, ACOG, entry left chest at an angle, turned inside right shoulder into jello.