Matt beat me to the punch.....This will piss some folks off I'm sure but part of the issue is that many of the hunters in the woods just aren't good enough hunters to kill the deer that they are wanting to kill. I've seen it in my own club over the last couple years. One guys comes in reporting seeing 5-6 bucks chasing one doe while another guy stands there and talks about how he hasn't seen a racked buck all year. Then you get the lunch time circle of bull chit talk about all the things that need to change in order for them to be able to see deer. Its never them. Its always something else.