since horton went out of buisness last year. they still have brand new hortons on ebay for half price. just be sure not to pay more than half. I bought the trt 175 last year and have been pretty pleased. as long as it doesn't need any parts. I just sold my explorer 150 for $50. also if you do risk buying horton buy something pretty simple, some of the reverse limbs have problems. ten point bought horton and will be bringing the brand back in a different fashion.