Soooooo if I use my dog to track my deer I have to be registered ????????
Apparently. Can someone direct me to the hunt master registry on the website? I use my dog to track my own deer sometimes. Never tracked for anyone else, though.
Re: Tracking dogs and regulations?
[Re: Clem]
#3228327 09/26/2009:42 AM09/26/2009:42 AM
This is just a plan to try and get dog deer hunting back in counties that have been closed. Best I can tell they are trying to lump all dogs into dog deer hunting. I know by the letter of the law that trailing a deer at night and dispatching is illegal. However trailing a deer with a blood tracking dog is light years difference from dog deer hunting where you turn a dog loose and it runs any deer to a standing hunter. Blood tracking should NOT be included in this bill. I do feel that the ADHA is grasping at straws. I have spoke with 2 representatives and another prominent member who said that the bill will have stiff opposition from large landowners who do not wish to see dog deer hunting. I could care less about dog deer hunting to each is own but I do as a tracker have a problem when they lumped us into their bill. Most trackers have a good reputation with landowners and we have worked tirelessly to try and educate people that blood tracking is not deer hunting. I have gone on tracks where the deer was not mortally wounded and dispatched the deer. However more times than not if that deer crosses a property line the track is called until said landowner gives permission to track. It's just unfortunate that we as trackers are grouped with the same balck eye because we have dogs. As you can see this struck a nerve with me and I rarely vent on this site but blood tracking is night and day difference from dog deer hunting. I do not wish to see dog deer hunting abolished but to add us into their verbiage is stretching in my honest opinion. Heck most trackers have all worked to restore relationships between hunters and landowners to recover deer that may not have been found otherwise. Are there trackers who take it to the extreme as far as tracking deer that won't die, yes, but majority of us just want to give the hunter the satisfaction of finding their deer and we don't want a deer left in the woods to suffer and be coyote bait. Sorry rant is over. Call your representative and voice your concern over blood trackers being omitted from the Ethical hunters Responsibility act bill.
It isn't necessary to see a good tackle...you can hear it.
Knute Rockne
Re: Tracking dogs and regulations?
[Re: Clem]
#3228892 09/27/2006:30 AM09/27/2006:30 AM
I haven’t been around dog hunters much but every experience we had with them was bad. In my opinion this video does absolutely nothing to promote the sport. I think it’s a total disgrace how these people hunt. Doesn’t seem very ethical to me. Again just my opinion.
Last edited by marshmud991; 09/27/2006:31 AM.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
If you think the way they just take pot shots at those deer through the trees and bushes on the sides of the roads is ethical then there’s nothing wrong with it.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
If you think the way they just take pot shots at those deer through the trees and bushes on the sides of the roads is ethical then there’s nothing wrong with it.
I was worried about what was ethical and ethics , I'd hunt with a camera.
Divide and conquer and slippery slope come to mind here. I may not agree with anyone's right to potshot at their dinner but I am morally obligated to defend their right to do so.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too.Anne Frank
Divide and conquer and slippery slope come to mind here. I may not agree with anyone's right to potshot at their dinner but I am morally obligated to defend their right to do so.
Originally Posted by Clem
Stay on track.
This isn't about how they hunt with dogs or taking potshots.
It's about possibly another government regulation being imposed on a group.
Geno, Clem is right this bill is not about the right to dog hunt, it's about more regulations added to folks who use dogs in general whether it be hunting or tracking. They say it is no fee but we all know that a fee will he added eventually to use a dog while hunting. It's another regulation we as hunters would have to follow
It isn't necessary to see a good tackle...you can hear it.
My guess is that the ADHA hopes to pick up a bunch more members with the forced registrations.
"Need to join our organization. WE represent YOU!"
Always, always, follow the money.
**Side note** I did read where this only applied to tracking "off lead." So as long as Frankie keeps his dog on a leash, no registration would be required. (Still BS, regardless.)
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
It only applies to “off lead” tracking which in Alabama is the same as dog deer hunting by law
I’ve already talked to both DCNR employees and one the writers of this bill.
Does not apply if using a lead. The registration is free of charge to anyone who wants it if passed.
With the technology at disposal today, there is no reason for a dog to leave a property. The dog hunters are trying to police the bad apples. In return those that can control their dogs want the opportunity to hunt those closed counties. Keeping the dogs on their own property wouldn’t bother anyone. Tone breaking is not a new concept and has been used by some for years and very similar to whip training fox hounds. I’ve seen it with my own eyes from 1/2 miles away. Whole pack stopped on a dime and came back. Those against dog hunting should like that and those tracking off lead who don’t trespass shouldn’t worry about it.
Tone broke dogs are the only allowed dogs at the Geneva hunt. Hand picked by the association. To date not a single instance of a dog leaving the WMA.
My guess is that the ADHA hopes to pick up a bunch more members with the forced registrations.
"Need to join our organization. WE represent YOU!"
Always, always, follow the money.
**Side note** I did read where this only applied to tracking "off lead." So as long as Frankie keeps his dog on a leash, no registration would be required. (Still BS, regardless.)
If you think the way they just take pot shots at those deer through the trees and bushes on the sides of the roads is ethical then there’s nothing wrong with it.
I would just about bet those deer weren't as far away as the camera made them look. Like pics on a cell phone.