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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: goodman_hunter] #934302
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
More children die from abuse in one state in one year than that...... maybe yawl should research what the #1 cause of child related deaths in america is and do what you can to outlaw that



How about you research it, tell us what it is and I'll bet its already illegal.

My problem with whole pit bull thing it that people won't even recognize the potential for a problem. Dumbest thing I hear when a dog is barking, growling, etc is "oh she won't hurt you". Really? Kinda seems like she wants to.

Dog owners need to realize the potential is there and be double cautious to keep them contained to eliminate the possibility of something happening. Let your dog get out and kill somebody and watch your life get turned upside down. The owner would be lucky to have a pot to piss in when the dust settles, especially if there is a track record of problems.

I feel sorry for the person that is doing nothing wrong that gets hurt because an owner wants to prove a point about their "sweet dog". When laws start changing to affect the issue, aggressive dog owners can look in the mirror to find out why. Carry on.

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: akbejeepin] #934314
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Originally Posted By: akbejeepin
Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
More children die from abuse in one state in one year than that...... maybe yawl should research what the #1 cause of child related deaths in america is and do what you can to outlaw that



How about you research it, tell us what it is and I'll bet its already illegal.

My problem with whole pit bull thing it that people won't even recognize the potential for a problem. Dumbest thing I hear when a dog is barking, growling, etc is "oh she won't hurt you". Really? Kinda seems like she wants to.

Dog owners need to realize the potential is there and be double cautious to keep them contained to eliminate the possibility of something happening. Let your dog get out and kill somebody and watch your life get turned upside down. The owner would be lucky to have a pot to piss in when the dust settles, especially if there is a track record of problems.

I feel sorry for the person that is doing nothing wrong that gets hurt because an owner wants to prove a point about their "sweet dog". When laws start changing to affect the issue, aggressive dog owners can look in the mirror to find out why. Carry on.




i agree with what you said 100%. But would like to add. They also need to give the dog the training and attention they deserve.


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: goodman_hunter] #934316
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days


so over 176 deaths in 9 years and yawl ready to do away with something. to be so concered with life why havent yawl found out what other life losing statistics are. More children die from abuse in one state in one year than that. u claim to be symapathetic towards human life and especially children. But the truth is your just anti pit. it will never happen. But say they did outlaw pits. You have done very little to save human life. That only accounts for a very small percentage of deaths. I hope yawl have this "save the world" and " i'll give up what ever freedoms yawl want" attitude when it comes to something that affects you. maybe yawl should research what the #1 cause of child related deaths in america is and do what you can to outlaw that




I say feed the child abuses and molesters to the pit bulls!!!!


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934352
04/15/14 07:45 AM
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This thread is dumb, Yes pitt bulls kill people. So does a blue million other things, I guess the folks that say there extremely dangerous doesnt drive there kids to the store in fear of other out of control drivers.

How many hunters died across the U.S. this year from shooting accidents and falling from stands? Guess we should outlaw hunting as well, Dont want people to get killed.

Ive been around pits ALOT, Never have been attacked, and i have played with several very ROUGH! But the reason i may not have been attacked is because im not scared of them.

Do we really not have anything better to talk about around here? Cuz ill go ahead and tell ya, the statistics are weak at best.

I agree with goodman hunter, There is a different cause that yall could fight for that would be way more productive, cause 176 deaths in 8 years is little to nothing.

Is it a shame that children have been killed by the dogs? Yes, absolutely. But people kill people to, Should we kill all white or black people? cuz a few are crazy and go on massacres? BY some of the logic on here some of you would say yes

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934388
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Only 176 killed and 83% children under 7 years old but no big deal lots of things kill a lot more kids.

Some people are stupid beyond belief. Some things in life can be prevented and some cannot. Children are killed by guns, I keep mine locked up or in my sole possession. Children are killed by child molesters and abuse. I don't allow my children to be alone with anyone except very close family and I don't hire ex offenders to baby sit. Children are killed in cars, I make mine sit in the back and wear a seat belt.

Children are killed by large dangerous dogs, Pit bulls being overwhelmingly the #1 offender. Guess what geniuses, I don't allow my children with Pit Bulls either. Why would anyone do everything else sensible to protect their children but completely ignore a different valid danger?

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: R_H_Clark] #934399
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Why are most pit owners/defenders bama fans?


Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Only 176 killed and 83% children under 7 years old but no big deal lots of things kill a lot more kids.

Some people are stupid beyond belief. Some things in life can be prevented and some cannot. Children are killed by guns, I keep mine locked up or in my sole possession. Children are killed by child molesters and abuse. I don't allow my children to be alone with anyone except very close family and I don't hire ex offenders to baby sit. Children are killed in cars, I make mine sit in the back and wear a seat belt.

Children are killed by large dangerous dogs, Pit bulls being overwhelmingly the #1 offender. Guess what geniuses, I don't allow my children with Pit Bulls either. Why would anyone do everything else sensible to protect their children but completely ignore a different valid danger?

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934416
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Burbank im actually starting to like you a lil bit...Dont mess it up. grin

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: burbank] #934417
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Originally Posted By: burbank
Why are most pit owners/defenders bama fans?


Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Only 176 killed and 83% children under 7 years old but no big deal lots of things kill a lot more kids.

Some people are stupid beyond belief. Some things in life can be prevented and some cannot. Children are killed by guns, I keep mine locked up or in my sole possession. Children are killed by child molesters and abuse. I don't allow my children to be alone with anyone except very close family and I don't hire ex offenders to baby sit. Children are killed in cars, I make mine sit in the back and wear a seat belt.

Children are killed by large dangerous dogs, Pit bulls being overwhelmingly the #1 offender. Guess what geniuses, I don't allow my children with Pit Bulls either. Why would anyone do everything else sensible to protect their children but completely ignore a different valid danger?


I'm Not a Bama fan.
I guess that my parents weren't so bad after all now were they?


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: R_H_Clark] #934419
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Only 176 killed and 83% children under 7 years old but no big deal lots of things kill a lot more kids.

Some people are stupid beyond belief. Some things in life can be prevented and some cannot. Children are killed by guns, I keep mine locked up or in my sole possession. Children are killed by child molesters and abuse. I don't allow my children to be alone with anyone except very close family and I don't hire ex offenders to baby sit. Children are killed in cars, I make mine sit in the back and wear a seat belt.

Children are killed by large dangerous dogs, Pit bulls being overwhelmingly the #1 offender. Guess what geniuses, I don't allow my children with Pit Bulls either. Why would anyone do everything else sensible to protect their children but completely ignore a different valid danger?


Because it is no more a valid danger than any other dog.


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: JTapia] #934482
04/15/14 08:54 AM
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Penny-ante bull crap.Have any of ya'll ever looked up the stats on how many falling trees kill people every year? Seriously...
Lets all get mad and cuss trees....
Which one is worse red oak,white oak,pine,sweetgum....?

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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934485
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My brother had a pit several years ago. He was renting a house while going to school. That dog was a sweetheart that loved women. My brother would always put him in the backyard when he had company over. All the girls would want him to let the dog inside and he would warn them of this dog's disposition toward women. You could have 3 guys and 1 girl in a room and let that dog in and he would run straight to the girl and sit in her lap. Wasn't a damn thing you could do about it either.

His landlord made him get rid of the dog because he couldn't rent the house next door. My parents ended up taking the dog. He was sweet until the day he died, but I wouldn't have let a child play with him. Not that he was mean, but he was so strong.

I've got a 13 year old shih Tzu (Got it for my daughter) that doesn't like to be picked up. I won't let a young child play with her unless I'm supervising because I know this dog's disposition. It will snap at a stranger if you try to pick it up. It will even growl a little at me letting me know that she is allowing me to pick her up, but she don't like it.

I live next door to my mother and thought about getting a pit 7-8 years ago. I decided against it because my brother has young children and they would visit several times a year and I might not be there to put the dog up. I agree it's not a good dog when young children are involved.

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934494
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now that everybody has calmed down. Let me tell You what the new dog study on dog aggression had to say...aggression is not breed specefic. Younger dog owners had more aggressive dogs no matter what the breed. People that yelled and screamed at there dog tended to have more aggressive dogs. And the one that shocked me was that having a dog fixed didn't make the dog less aggressive or less territorial.


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934498
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So chopping off the cods. Don't tame them down?

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Originally Posted By: steelman
So chopping off the cods. Don't tame them down?


I'd bite you if you chopped my cods off


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Beadlescomb] #934519
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Originally Posted By: Beadlescomb

Originally Posted By: steelman
So chopping off the cods. Don't tame them down?


I'd bite you if you chopped my cods off


grin

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: trox28] #934523
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Originally Posted By: trox28
Burbank im actually starting to like you a lil bit...Dont mess it up. grin

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: goodman_hunter] #934525
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I calmly did some research on the matter as it involved children because that seems to be the most riling up point on here.

Here is what I found.

Since 1973 -Apr, 2014 I counted 101 children between the ages of 0-20 that were killed by what was directly described as Pit Bull, Pit Bull Mix and/or Staffordshire Terrier.
Now there were more that probably were attributed to the cause of death by the link website posted at the beginning of this thread, a site I might add, devoted solely to the destruction of the Pit Bull, simply because they were "pit bull like".

Also I found that from 1973 -2013 there were 768 fatal accidents involving children and Mini Blind Cords.

It is a terrible tragedy anytime a child is killed from what ever cause but to become this worked up over such a statistically small cause and to the point of irrational thoughts and behavior is just dumbfounding to me. Digressing into childish name calling and threats of death to a whole breed of canine and someones pet is just unbelievably irrational to me.
Are we to burn down every house that has Mini Blinds in the windows now?

Should I say that if you have mini blinds I'll never visit your house and if you bring me mini blinds to my house I'll rip them from your hands and destroy them? That is just silly.
Just putting things in perspective.

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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: JTapia] #934540
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Mini blinds are not alive! Stop while you are ahead. The next time my blinds jump from the window and maul a child, give me a yell.

Originally Posted By: JTapia
I calmly did some research on the matter as it involved children because that seems to be the most riling up point on here.

Here is what I found.

Since 1973 -Apr, 2014 I counted 101 children between the ages of 0-20 that were killed by what was directly described as Pit Bull, Pit Bull Mix and/or Staffordshire Terrier.
Now there were more that probably were attributed to the cause of death by the link website posted at the beginning of this thread, a site I might add, devoted solely to the destruction of the Pit Bull, simply because they were "pit bull like".

Also I found that from 1973 -2013 there were 768 fatal accidents involving children and Mini Blind Cords.

It is a terrible tragedy anytime a child is killed from what ever cause but to become this worked up over such a statistically small cause and to the point of irrational thoughts and behavior is just dumbfounding to me. Digressing into childish name calling and threats of death to a whole breed of canine and someones pet is just unbelievably irrational to me.
Are we to burn down every house that has Mini Blinds in the windows now?

Should I say that if you have mini blinds I'll never visit your house and if you bring me mini blinds to my house I'll rip them from your hands and destroy them? That is just silly.
Just putting things in perspective.

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Originally Posted By: burbank
Mini blinds are not alive! Stop while you are ahead. The next time my blinds jump from the window and maul a child, give me a yell.


they are more dangerous though, what is so hard for you to understand about that?

I clearly said to keep things in perspective!!!

Originally Posted By: burbank
Stop while you are ahead.


Why? What you gonna do, insult my parents again? grin

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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934548
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Your wasting your time burbank.Thats why i just quit.Its none of my business anyway.

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