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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #890838
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Awesome, I can hunt pubic land without giving away my location. If it passes, I'd like one for my 30-06 and 243 ...




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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Wiley Coyote] #890871
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Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted By: HippieKiller
Guys in clubs may get away with shooting stuff and NOT giving away their exact location.


So, because you have a couple of asshats in your club, the rest of us, ALL of us, should be prevented from having a device made legal for use during hunting?


No. I personally would love to have a suppressor for my rifle if I could afford it and it wasn't such a PITA to get one. I was only pointing out possible down-sides... with a heavy dose of sarcasim.


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: bamaeyedoc] #890905
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Originally Posted By: bamaeyedoc
Originally Posted By: cullbuck
What's the negative about allowing the use of supressors?


Poachers/night hunters are jumping for joy.


Dr. B


So people who already break the law were waiting for something to be made legal for use so they could use it? OK


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #890915
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I'm not a poacher and I do want one.

Just cause I can (if it passes smile )


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: CKyleC] #890920
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Originally Posted By: CKyleC
Originally Posted By: bamaeyedoc
Originally Posted By: cullbuck
What's the negative about allowing the use of supressors?


Poachers/night hunters are jumping for joy.


Dr. B


So people who already break the law were waiting for something to be made legal for use so they could use it? OK


lol slap rofl

Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: spy] #890953
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Originally Posted By: spy
They would be great for pigs.


100% agree

All political theories aside, this is a good thing.


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #890957
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I know of at least two instances of night hunters using crossbows to hunt with, one of em shot a decoy!!!

I've personally never heard of anyone poaching/night hunting with a suppressor. My feeling is the guys legally obtaining a suppressor are not the same crowd that night hunts/poaches.

I have shot a 22lr that was silent, only noise was the firing pin spring and the bullet hitting.

The 243 I shot was about like a 22lr after the first shot. First shot was louder.

howinthehelldoyougetacrossbowoutatruckwindowtoshootit???? shocked


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: BhamFred] #890960
03/07/14 11:00 AM
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Quote:
howinthehelldoyougetacrossbowoutatruckwindowtoshootit????


Yep.

Sideways, gangsta stylz?


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #891129
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What's stopping poachers from using them right now? The law? By the definion of participating in poachIng, they are demonstrating that laws don't influence thier behavior. Same as banning guns from gas stations wouldn't prevent robberies.

Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #892329
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It's like Troy said, the guys that have/hunt with suppressors aren't the type guys going out night hunting.

I won't be bashful, I'm finalizing my trust and will be getting a couple prior to the season and will use them if the reg. goes through.

Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #892373
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A quick note on not being heard. A suppressed rifle that is not loaded with subsonic ammunition is not what I would call 'quiet'. The round itself still screams downrange and can be pinpointed to a degree. It only lacks the full crack at the muzzle. Most of the full size calibers that we hunt with perform poorly loaded to subsonic speeds because there is too much space in the casings( too little powder) and the bullets do not expand below a certain speed( usually 1800-2100fps min).

Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #892395
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I've been thinking about the benefits of this and not blowing up the woods every time you shoot for years. It's not totally quiet but shots should only effect animals in your immediate vicinity and not make them jump 3 miles away! I think this is a good thing and will take advantage of this if it passes.

Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: bamachem] #892455
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Originally Posted By: bamachem
Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
You don't need one and poachers would run rampant if they were legal.


C'mon - hope you're joking...


Read Clem's post directly above mine. It's satire.


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #895164
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If your best argument is hearing loss, they make ear protectors that amplify normal sounds and suppress the weapon. If you make suppressors easily available to the hunters, how long is it going to take to get into the hands of criminals. How many rifles and handguns a year are stolen. Now gang A is shooting at Gang B with suppressed weapons. Gang B has to buy, build or steal suppressed weapons to keep up. I guess the bright side is it wouldn't wake you up when somebody double taped a neighbor or family member. It takes a complete idiot to think that what we would gain enough in hunting with suppressed weapons to offset the damage and increased risk to our society.


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Bucky205] #895309
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Originally Posted By: Bucky205
It takes a complete idiot to think that what we would gain enough in hunting with suppressed weapons to offset the damage and increased risk to our society.


No sir, it would take a complete idiot to think that suppressors would make "Gang A" kill more of "Gang B" than they currently are, or that "the availability" of suppressors would cause a rise in crime.

Someone getting double tapped with a suppressed .22LR is no more the fault of the suppressor than it is the fault of the .22LR. Criminals don't give a crap about any law.


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Bucky205] #895326
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Originally Posted By: Bucky205
If your best argument is hearing loss, they make ear protectors that amplify normal sounds and suppress the weapon. If you make suppressors easily available to the hunters, how long is it going to take to get into the hands of criminals. How many rifles and handguns a year are stolen. Now gang A is shooting at Gang B with suppressed weapons. Gang B has to buy, build or steal suppressed weapons to keep up. I guess the bright side is it wouldn't wake you up when somebody double taped a neighbor or family member. It takes a complete idiot to think that what we would gain enough in hunting with suppressed weapons to offset the damage and increased risk to our society.


My best argument would be that there are already too many laws and too many people who want to limit the choices they don't agree with. If your best argument for owning a firearm is hunting or protection they sell meat in the grocery store and the police will protect you.

No one should ever be amazed that liberals are able to advance liberty killing laws. They play on emotion and feeling instead of logic and they even are able to convince otherwise conservative individuals to give up some liberty in the name of safety.


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Bucky205] #895339
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Originally Posted By: Bucky205
If your best argument is hearing loss, they make ear protectors that amplify normal sounds and suppress the weapon. If you make suppressors easily available to the hunters, how long is it going to take to get into the hands of criminals. How many rifles and handguns a year are stolen. Now gang A is shooting at Gang B with suppressed weapons. Gang B has to buy, build or steal suppressed weapons to keep up. I guess the bright side is it wouldn't wake you up when somebody double taped a neighbor or family member. It takes a complete idiot to think that what we would gain enough in hunting with suppressed weapons to offset the damage and increased risk to our society.


So you hunt with a single shot rifles? Just saying, I am pretty sure that having more available rounds is a higher risk for the public than a suppressed weapon.


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Bucky205] #895341
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Originally Posted By: Bucky205
If your best argument is hearing loss, they make ear protectors that amplify normal sounds and suppress the weapon. If you make suppressors easily available to the hunters, how long is it going to take to get into the hands of criminals. How many rifles and handguns a year are stolen. Now gang A is shooting at Gang B with suppressed weapons. Gang B has to buy, build or steal suppressed weapons to keep up. I guess the bright side is it wouldn't wake you up when somebody double taped a neighbor or family member. It takes a complete idiot to think that what we would gain enough in hunting with suppressed weapons to offset the damage and increased risk to our society.
that is the dumbest thing I have read in a while.

You still have to abide by all NFA regulations regarding the suppressor. You can't just leave them lying around or loan them to your buddy.

When you don't know what you are talking about, keep you mouth shut.

Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: HippieKiller] #895344
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Originally Posted By: HippieKiller
Originally Posted By: Bucky205
It takes a complete idiot to think that what we would gain enough in hunting with suppressed weapons to offset the damage and increased risk to our society.


No sir, it would take a complete idiot to think that suppressors would make "Gang A" kill more of "Gang B" than they currently are, or that "the availability" of suppressors would cause a rise in crime.

Someone getting double tapped with a suppressed .22LR is no more the fault of the suppressor than it is the fault of the .22LR. Criminals don't give a crap about any law.


You guys must live in a different county.

Prescription drug abuse-availability

Underage drinking-availability

Automobile accidents - As numbers of autos increase, so do the accidents.

increased crime in areas where there are fewer LEO's, so lets make it harder to detect a gunshot. Bad logic.
Does absolutely nothing to improve the sport, wear hearing protection if your worried about the noise. You can even get protection that amplify's normal sounds.

nothing to improve the sport, hurts it far more than it helps it for a number of reasons. Illegal hunting practice is just one of many. Currently if a someone shoots to close to you, you can hear it and you move. This holds true, even in schools and shopping malls.

Gives an advantage to someone looking to commit a crime in a public place. Now you want gain anything in safety by sticking to public places.

I spent most of my adult life defending the constitution and took a sworn oath to do so. I just know silencers have no more place in hunting than do infrared drones for scouting.

If you made it legal for women to go nude in public, some would do it, and sexual assaults would increase. I agree it is not the fault of the woman, it is the fault of the assaulter. But we made it legal for her to go nude in the first place.
The more drug dealers that are on the streets, the more drug abuse that will occur. This is just the reality of our society.


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Re: "Silencers" proposed to be approved for hunting [Re: Clem] #895351
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I will say this. I am personally aware of 1000s of suppressor a in Jefferson and Shelby counties. I could give the name and address for well over 1000 people in this state that own one. But, not a single time has anyone ever been shown to have committed a crime with one in this state.

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