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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: extreme heights hunter]
#850405
02/05/14 08:38 PM
02/05/14 08:38 PM
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Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 172 covington county
D-roc-C
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Maybe im full of shucks like a christmas turkey too!!.... But i hunt covington county only, and i usuall knock my biggest bucks out early, by the time my rut starts (if i see even see it) there basically aint even a deer left! Hard to see the does m when i do i spike or small immature deers behind her. I dont and will not depend on the rut to kill my bucks, all the rut is good for to me is to bring a bonus buck in from a neigjboring property. I agree 110% with ikillbux
When you do what you've always done. Your gonna get what you've always got. If you gotta drag it out by the legs or ears it aint worth shootin.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: D-roc-C]
#850408
02/05/14 11:48 PM
02/05/14 11:48 PM
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Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,872 Spanish Fort
teamduckdown
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Spanish Fort
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Maybe im full of shucks like a christmas turkey too!!.... But i hunt covington county only, and i usuall knock my biggest bucks out early, by the time my rut starts (if i see even see it) there basically aint even a deer left! Hard to see the does m when i do i spike or small immature deers behind her. I dont and will not depend on the rut to kill my bucks, all the rut is good for to me is to bring a bonus buck in from a neigjboring property. I agree 110% with ikillbux You like to kill over the limit too? Look its not that I am always depending on the rut to kill my bucks. But do I think it improves mt odds? Hell yes. Plus there is just nothing like being in the woods when the rut is happening. Im not sitting here blabbing about extending the season (as apparently some of you think I am), Im simply petitioning for a shift of the dates amount of time already given.
Turkeys be damned.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: teamduckdown]
#850448
02/06/14 03:16 AM
02/06/14 03:16 AM
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Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,095 Anniston, AL
ikillbux
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ishootatbux
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Anniston, AL
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No, I'm not gonna be MIA for a while, and no there's not any funny business with my harvest limit and kill dates. I just don't want to be the butthole of aldeer, acting like a juvenile arguing with strangers on a message board. Duckdown didn't ask for an argument when he made the post, and it was my fault that it turned that way. Just bowing out of this thread (and deleting my $.02) as a peacemaking gesture.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: ikillbux]
#850482
02/06/14 04:12 AM
02/06/14 04:12 AM
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 13,715 Over yonder
extreme heights hunter
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No, I'm not gonna be MIA for a while, and no there's not any funny business with my harvest limit and kill dates. I just don't want to be the butthole of aldeer, acting like a juvenile arguing with strangers on a message board. Duckdown didn't ask for an argument when he made the post, and it was my fault that it turned that way. Just bowing out of this thread (and deleting my $.02) as a peacemaking gesture. no need to bow out. hunting season is almost over for everyone and its time to get back to business as usual around here. the arguing will get started pretty soon and people will get banned or put in time out. i dont think anyone is getting too butt hurt over this thread. speaking of butt hurt. if you will excuse me i am going to go try this sitting on the thrown backwards thing.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: teamduckdown]
#850556
02/06/14 05:05 AM
02/06/14 05:05 AM
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Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,997 Warrior River Country
49er
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Booner
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Warrior River Country
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duckdown, ... Im simply petitioning for a shift of the dates amount of time already given. Why? Do you really think it would harm the species if we were to vary from the "amount of time already given" from one area to the other? Our lawmakers don't agree with your line of thinking. ...(7) To close the season of any species of game in any county or area when, upon a survey by the department, it is found necessary to the conservation and perpetuation of such species and to reopen such closed season when it is deemed advisable.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: 49er]
#850561
02/06/14 05:11 AM
02/06/14 05:11 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,595 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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Do you really think it would harm the species if we were to vary from the "amount of time already given" from one area to the other?
[/quote] How would not having a season, at all, harm the species? Predators have been managing the population long before hunters.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: teamduckdown]
#850599
02/06/14 05:37 AM
02/06/14 05:37 AM
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Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,057 Alabama Wetumpka
Talltines
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Alabama Wetumpka
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I'm kinda in agreence with ikillbux. Most of the biggest bucks I have ever seen or watched on my Previous land was in December out in the fields trying to get fat and happy so they could get Prepared for the rut. Yes December in Alabama Can be a Bi@tch but you can catch some nice ones with the right set up and pattern. I'm not saying that you don't have a greater chance during the rut because we all know that once that doe goes into heat the big ole bucks will be stupid. Just like most of use guys when a pretty girl bats her eyes at us. Alabama has a vast difference of hunting from the upper north in the Mountains to the delta. I think thats why we have such a long season. Its to give everyone a fair chance to harvest and Manage there own land. We have a lot better set up than the rest of the country. We all need to Be careful what we ask for because they could limit us to a month long season with one buck tag and one doe tag then we will all be mad.
Hunting Is my Obsession, My Passion, My Everything, Oh so is my wife.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#850687
02/06/14 06:42 AM
02/06/14 06:42 AM
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Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,997 Warrior River Country
49er
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Do you really think it would harm the species if we were to vary from the "amount of time already given" from one area to the other?
How would not having a season, at all, harm the species? Predators have been managing the population long before hunters. Ask the people where depredation permits are issued after hunting season closes if predators are managing the population. Not having a season at all is better than issuing permits to allow violation of the law and but do not allow the deer to killed and used for food. 220-2-.27 ...All wildlife taken shall be disposed of as directed by the issuing agent, and except for feral swine it may not be utilized personally.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: 49er]
#850689
02/06/14 06:48 AM
02/06/14 06:48 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,595 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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Do you really think it would harm the species if we were to vary from the "amount of time already given" from one area to the other?
How would not having a season, at all, harm the species? Predators have been managing the population long before hunters. Ask the people where depredation permits are issued after hunting season closes if predators are managing the population. Are they issued to help manage the over population of the species or to decrease crop damage?
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: 49er]
#850700
02/06/14 06:58 AM
02/06/14 06:58 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,595 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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Cause you wanted me to ask the people getting depredation permits, if predators were managing the population. There is a difference in over population and crop damage related permits. I'm not saying that I agree with the permits.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: 49er]
#850709
02/06/14 07:08 AM
02/06/14 07:08 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,595 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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What's the difference?
It makes no sense whatsoever to argue that all areas of the state should have deer season set for the same number of days.
Currently, areas in north Alabama have fewer days in the antlerless season. There is no reason why seasons should not be set differently according to the population density in different areas.
That is the intent of the law. I haven't argued any of that.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: teamduckdown]
#850735
02/06/14 07:43 AM
02/06/14 07:43 AM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363 Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
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[quote=ikillbux]No, I've never hunted extreme South Alabama, except for a few times as a guest here and there. But I still say we're talking different narratives. If you think I couldn't come to Clark Co (just picking a random place) and kill at least one mountable racked buck in 3 1/2 months (from Oct 15 - Jan 31), then the problem is NOT when the rut occurs. The problem is your land sucks. Ain't no way in Hades I'd pay a dollar to lease any land where I couldn't have a successful season during the traditional state dates. And NO, I don't need a chasing phase to do that in. I'm saying the narrative is about SEEING deer without the rut. It sounds like your narrative is not being able to experience the rut while hunting. If you just want to experience rutting activity, just go sit in your stand in February, or go to Cades Cove with your video camera, or buy an Illinois trip in November, but leave my hunting season alone. And I'll let the pictures above speak for me when I say I may not know the difference between an a$$ and a chipmunk hole, but I know how to see and kill good bucks before February. And two of those three deer above were killed on public land. I also missed a large buck on Barbour WMA on Jan 17th, chasing a doe. I saw 6 bucks chasing does on Jan 17th and 18th on that Barbour hunt. Looks like Ikillbux deleted his pics, but would say this: none of those three deer are "mounters" by my standards, especially the first two - I pass up two+ dozen bucks a season like those first two - those are small deer to me and although the antlers on those bucks are going in the right direction they are too small for myself to be considered "mounters" and would never pull the trigger on them. The 3rd one does have some body size and some antler mass but no tine length. Would certainly not begrudge anyone for shooting any of them though, they are just nothing to write home about either. Different hunters have different views on what a mounter is and what mature is (some say 3.5 and some say 5.5). That is all fine and good. But the bottom line is that everyone should be able to hunt the full primary rut and the best way to accomplish this is to establish a southern zone, add a week to ten days in February, and close the same amount in December or even the first two or three weeks of December to offset the addition. Have to add that while Ikillbux makes some good points about getting off food plots and getting into the woods near thick stuff (my Dad taught me that when I was in 3rd grade)(literally)(course we didn't have food plots back then) those statements about a December primary rut in the southern half of the State is balogny - excluding some of those places right next to the Chattahoochee river where there is Georgia genetic bleed over. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state..
[Re: teamduckdown]
#850743
02/06/14 07:51 AM
02/06/14 07:51 AM
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Posts: 196
RMcL
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I would like to see Smoothbore Muzzleloaders included as a lawful means of take during any open alabama archery season - including all wildlife management areas and state parks.
Last edited by RMcL; 02/06/14 07:51 AM.
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