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#78469 - 01/23/11 12:39 AM Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama
Wiley Coyote Offline
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With the new EPA ruling that 15% ethanol is OK I thought I'd put this up for folks that want regular old gasoline. This list is not 100% accurate but I've found it useful. Please post your local sources of ethanol free gas in here too.

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=AL


List of stations in all states...

http://pure-gas.org/


Edited by Wiley Coyote (01/23/11 01:18 AM)
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#78484 - 01/23/11 12:52 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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The Super C station on Hwy 84 between Andalusia and Opp has ethanol free gas and the Mr. Henry's station across from the Southeast Alabama Regional Airport is supposed to have it also (the last I knew).
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#78486 - 01/23/11 12:58 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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Pinkards in downtown Troy has ethanol free.
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#78490 - 01/23/11 01:03 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
perchjerker Offline
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Loc: N'Orleans, La
Most stations that don't have it have signs stating they don't. They know we don't want that crap.
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#78542 - 01/23/11 02:09 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
300gr Online   content
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Thanks for the info. Ethanol is rough on small engines

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#78637 - 01/23/11 06:31 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
BOHNTR Offline
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Loc: Demopolis,Al
Pumps at both of the locations listed for Demopolis has stickers on them that say they have ethanol in them.

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#78672 - 01/23/11 01:23 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: 300gr]
DEADorALIVE Offline
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Loc: Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
Originally Posted By: 300gr
Thanks for the info. Ethanol is rough on small engines


Ethanol is rough on ALL engines. Gasoline is a petroleum product, and even refined gasoline has some lubricating properties to it. What's a good product to use to clean up oil or grease and make something squeaky clean?...Alcohol. What's ethanol?...Alcohol.

Down here in Brazil the gasoline has a real high ethanol content (27%). Cars that are already about 30% more expensive than in the US are only expected to last a few years, because the ethanol is so hard on the engines.
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#78673 - 01/23/11 01:25 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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There is a station next to the Bama Smokehouse on 69 South just outsiide Tuscaloosa that has ethanol free gas.
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#78682 - 01/23/11 01:50 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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Loc: Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
As Huntress stated, the Super C station between Opp and Andalusia is ethanol-free. Gator Grocery in Gantt, and the Piggly Wiggly in Andalusia are both pure gas stations, also.

I think the Mr. Henry's station across from the airport has ethanol, though, since they switched to a BP station.
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#78695 - 01/23/11 02:07 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
laidback Offline
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How much a gallon above regular unleaded are you seeing.The stations I have seen were about 5 cents but the only one in Tuscaloosa is 11 cents.
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#78696 - 01/23/11 02:16 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: laidback]
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Loc: Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
not sure about the Gator Grocery up in Gantt...Gantt is kinda in the boondocks, so I wouldn't be surprised that gas is higher there. The Super C is competitive with most other stations in the area, and the Piggly Wiggly is competitive even with Walmart's prices...
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#79010 - 01/24/11 01:00 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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Loc: Prattville, Alabama
Liberty on Cobbs Ford Road just before the turn to Bass Pro has Ethanol free...of course more expensive.
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#79108 - 01/24/11 03:22 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
perchjerker Offline
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Registered: 01/12/04
Posts: 8984
Loc: N'Orleans, La
Below is a list of companys that sell American oil !
Conoco and Valero sell no ETHANOL !


Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil
Sunoco.........................0 barrels
Conoco........................0 barrels
Sinclair........................0 barrels
BP/Phillips..................0 barrels
Hess...........................0 barrels
ARC0..........................0 barrels
Maverick.....................0 barrels
Flying J.......................0 barrels
Valero........................0 barrels
Murphy Oil USA *.......0 barrels
*Sold at Wal-Mart <Gas is from South Arkansas and fully USA owned and produced..

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#79421 - 01/24/11 05:41 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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Loc: colbert county
Wal Mart gas is it ethanol free? Dixie Gas here in the shoals is ethanol free, you just have to pay inside, no pay at the pumps setup
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#79541 - 01/24/11 09:08 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
Big Jack Offline
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Loc: St. Clair County
Unless your riding a lawn mower you might be worried about nothing.
http://www.ehow.com/list_5899080_effects-ethanol-auto-engines.html

Seems that the effects depend on who you talk too.
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#79566 - 01/24/11 09:43 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Big Jack]
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Loc: South and Central Alabama
In Montgomery the only one I know of is the Exxon station on cloverdale and decatur in downtown.
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#79630 - 01/24/11 11:11 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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High Ethanol Blends
Fuel blends with higher than 10 percent ethanol have a greater chance of causing problems in modern day common vehicle engines. Flex fuel engines are designed to handle up to an E-85 blend, which contains 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline. Most states have at least some gas stations where E-85 is available, though it is most common in the Midwest. Race car drivers may use 100 percent ethanol or another high blend, but the vehicle's engine is specially designed for the high-alcohol content. A higher-than-10 percent mix is not recommended for a vehicle without a flex fuel engine. Those who are unsure should check their vehicle's manual to find out what blends are acceptable.


Read more: The Effects of Ethanol on Auto Engines | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_5899080_effects-ethanol-auto-engines.html#ixzz1C08TdFSl
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#79802 - 01/25/11 02:42 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Big Jack]
Frankie Offline
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Posts: 4282
Loc: Clanton , Al
Originally Posted By: 243shooter
Unless your riding a lawn mower you might be worried about nothing.
http://www.ehow.com/list_5899080_effects-ethanol-auto-engines.html

Seems that the effects depend on who you talk too.


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#80034 - 01/25/11 02:33 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Frankie]
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Loc: Lower AL
Especially boats with built in fuel tanks. I've got about 15-20 gallons of bad E10 gas in my boat to remove. Definately only buying ethanol-free from now on if I can find it.
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#80571 - 01/26/11 01:57 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Big Jack]
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Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 8337
Loc: colbert county
Originally Posted By: 243shooter
Unless your riding a lawn mower you might be worried about nothing.
http://www.ehow.com/list_5899080_effects-ethanol-auto-engines.html

Seems that the effects depend on who you talk too.



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The Environmental Costs of Ethanol

Brief Analyses | Environment



No. 591

Thursday, August 02, 2007

by Max Borders and H. Sterling Burnett

There is growing bipartisan political support for increased use of ethanol. An energy bill recently passed by the U.S. Senate would increase mandated ethanol use in blended fuels from 8 billion gallons to 36 billion gallons. Concern about global warming and the desire to improve air quality are stoking the demand for government action. Studies show that burning ethanol reduces the release of the greenhouse gas CO 2 ; but ethanol has mixed effects on air quality. Increased ethanol use could pose other environmental problems, including decreased fuel economy and a loss of forests and wetlands. When all of the environmental harms are accounted for, ethanol's costs may outweigh its benefits.


Problem: Ethanol Reduces Fuel Economy. Congress is debating raising fuel economy standards for vehicles to reduce energy consumption and air pollution. However, ethanol, or grain alcohol, produces 35 percent less energy per gallon than gasoline; thus the fuel economy of vehicles burning ethanol is lower. For instance, Consumer Reports tested a Chevrolet Tahoe running on E85 - a blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline. [See the figure.] Fuel economy fell from 21 miles per gallon (m.p.g.) to 15 m.p.g. on the highway and from 9 to 7 m.p.g. in the city. As a result, when E85 was $2.91 a gallon in August 2006, for example, it would have taken $3.99 of E85 to equal one gallon of gasoline.

In addition, poorer fuel economy means vehicles will use more gallons of fuel, which could negate any air quality gains due to fuel economy improvements.

Problem: Ethanol Corrodes Pipelines, Storage Tanks and Engines. Ethanol absorbs water and cannot be shipped through existing pipelines used to transport unblended gasoline. The water can separate, causing pipelines and fuel lines to freeze and, perhaps, burst during cold weather. Under the right conditions, the water can damage car engines. Furthermore, ethanol corrodes soft metals, and contaminants from corrosion can damage vehicle fuel systems.

Thus, in order to use more than 5 percent to 10 percent ethanol blended with gasoline will require building a new generation of vehicles to use it, in addition to new storage tanks and pipelines. As a result, expanding the use of ethanol means using more natural resources, not less.

Problem: Ethanol Production Diverts Land from Other Uses. American farmers can meet the congressionally created demand for more ethanol by taking steps to increase production, such as: 1) devoting more cropland to corn and less to other crops, 2) diverting more of the corn crop from human and animal food supplies to fuel production, 3) increasing corn yields by using more chemical fertilizers and pesticides, and 4) converting fallow fields, forests, wetlands and wild lands to agriculture. The third and fourth options have environmental consequences. For example, ethanol boosters are already pushing to allow corn production on millions of acres farmers have been paid to set aside for environmental protection under the Conservation Reserve Program.

The first and second options are already having human consequences:

The increased use of ethanol in the United States has caused the price of corn to double, raising livestock and wildlife feed prices.
Corn prices have also risen beyond U.S. borders - for instance, in Mexico, where a dramatic increase in the price of corn tortillas led to riots in early 2007.
Prices for meat and vegetables have also increased and, in June 2007, the United Nation's food envoy, Jean Ziegler, warned that the diversion of crops from food to biofuels could result in hundreds of thousands of deaths from hunger worldwide.
Furthermore, land uses will have to change dramatically to meet future increases in the ethanol mandate. For instance:

If every acre of corn were used to produce ethanol, it would supply the equivalent of only 12 percent of current gasoline use, according to researchers at the University of Minnesota.
Displacing just 5 percent of the U.S. demand for gasoline and diesel with ethanol would require more than 21 percent of U.S. cropland, according to the International Energy Agency.
If all the cars in America were fueled with 100 percent ethanol from corn, it would require 97 percent of the 1.9 billion acres of land in the United States to grow the feedstock, according to Cornell University scientist David Pimentel.
Senators apparently recognize the impact ethanol demand has had on food prices and the limits of corn-based production because the Senate bill requires that a majority of ethanol eventually come from switchgrass. Switchgrass could yield much more fuel per acre than corn, but the technology to convert switchgrass to ethanol at affordable prices does not yet exist. However, even 300 million acres of switchgrass - using all of the land currently devoted to crop production in the United States - couldn't supply current gasoline and diesel demand, according to researchers at the Polytechnic University of New York. Furthermore, the demand for gasoline and diesel is expected to double by 2025.

Problem: Ethanol Production Endangers South American Rainforests. For years, Brazil has subsidized the production of ethanol from sugar cane, which is why ethanol has appeared to be a renewables success story. In the past, farmers have turned to clear-cutting the Amazon jungle for soybean production. Currently most sugar cane is grown in the South Central region of Brazil - away from Amazonia. But the rainforest could be in greater peril if Congress clears the way for ethanol imports under a new agreement between the Bush Administration and the Brazilian government.

Soon, Brazil could be facing deforestation similar to that occurring in the tropical forests of Southeast Asia, where jungles are being cleared for palm oil plantations to fill Europe's increasing demand for biodiesel.

Problem: Ethanol Pollutes the Air. Ethanol reduces overall emissions of CO 2 , though the amount is debated. The crops grown for ethanol remove CO 2 from the atmosphere, and ethanol-blended gasoline reduces CO 2 emissions by 18 percent to 29 percent. However, some of those gains are lost because ethanol production is more energy-intensive than refining gasoline, leading to higher CO 2 emissions from burning fossil fuels in the ethanol distilling process.

In order to meet congressional mandates for ethanol in fuels, the Environmental Protection Agency has relaxed clean air regulations on ethanol production facilities, allowing 250 tons of emissions per year before regulations are triggered, whereas other industrial facilities violate clean air rules if their emissions top 100 tons per year.

While ethanol reduces some air pollutants, it increases others. Ethanol is blended with gasoline in some cities to reduce carbon monoxide (CO) emissions to meet clean air requirements. However, ethanol increases emissions of volatile organic compounds (VOCs) and nitrogen oxides (NO x ), which are components of smog. As a result, some cities that achieved compliance for CO levels could violate the EPA's VOC and ozone standards if ethanol use is mandated nationwide. Under current mandated use:

Ethanol is increasing ozone-forming emissions on hot days by 72 percent in Southern California, 48 percent in Sacramento and 55 percent in San Jose, according to the California Air Resources Board, jeopardizing the state's ability to comply with federal air quality standards.
Ethanol will increase ozone-forming NO x emissions in Wisconsin by twice as much as the emissions reduction achieved through vehicle inspection and maintenance programs, says the state's Department of Natural Resources.
E85, used in some areas, reduces levels of carcinogenic benzene and butadiene, but increases two other carcinogens - formaldehyde and acetaldehyde. E85 also produces peroxyacetyl nitrate, which damages plants.

Conclusion. Ethanol's known environmental effects should give Congress pause before continuing to mandate and subsidize it. Whether or not ethanol makes sense economically, it may well be a loser from an environmental perspective.
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#81059 - 01/26/11 10:54 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: laidback]
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Originally Posted By: laidback
How much a gallon above regular unleaded are you seeing.The stations I have seen were about 5 cents but the only one in Tuscaloosa is 11 cents.


The Dothan store I trade with is usually a nickel higher than Sam's. I hate ethanol gas!
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#81328 - 01/27/11 09:46 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: General]
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It reduces my MPG to the point where it is noticable and that is why I prefer ethanol free gas in my vehicles. It's also better for engines that may sit unused for a while (mowers, generators, ATVs, etc.
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#81526 - 01/27/11 05:02 PM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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It reduced my MPG by 5 mpg. It usually isn't that bad maybe 2 mpg but the last tank I got must have a higher percentage of ethanol. I got pure gas this time and it has made a big difference in better fuel milage.
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#82153 - 01/29/11 12:54 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: deadeye]
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Originally Posted By: deadeye
It reduces my MPG to the point where it is noticable and that is why I prefer ethanol free gas in my vehicles. It's also better for engines that may sit unused for a while (mowers, generators, ATVs, etc.


My small engine mechanic hates it and won't warranty any work on fuel system stuff..
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#90853 - 02/11/11 01:17 AM Re: Ethanol free gas stations in Alabama [Re: Wiley Coyote]
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Bama Bait N Tackle, Dulphin Island Parkway, Mobile, AL


Edited by Bucky205 (02/11/11 01:34 AM)
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