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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: yelkca280] #775297
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Originally Posted By: yelkca280

Originally Posted By: truedouble
Matt, I didn't look close enough I guess. Even more surprised that Limestone and especially Lauderdale are at the top...

It would be interesting to see why those counties are leading...more bucks killed due to a higher number of yearling bucks being killed, these counties are just doing exceptionally well and have a lot more bucks than a lot of other counties, more man hours in the woods or are more hunters calling in their kills from these counties than others? There sure is a lot left to be determined.

Matt, what is the state hoping to learn from these numbers, considering the probability that a lot of hunters aren't calling in their kills and there is no info. on the ages of the bucks being killed? Not complaining, and if it's just a warm introduction to a more informative reporting systems then even better.

I was thinking the total numbers looked extremely low, like 9er said.



I can tell you the answers to all the questions you ask about Limestone Co. The first thing you need to know is that you are hard pressed to find a track of land over 300 acres in Limestone co. Every little parcel is being hunted inside and outside the city limits by people who are scared that the one and two year old bucks will jump the fence and their neighbor will kill them which they will. Most people in Limestone co like to parade their
70inch stud bull around town, get their picture in the paper, and are loving that they can call someone and tell them they shot a deer. The common comment is how he was a big ol bodied deer and in reality he was a 2 yr old that tipped the scales at about 125 live weight.



thumbup Aint it great to live in a country that gives us the freedom to do this?.....

Originally Posted By: yelkca280



I wish like hell we would go to one buck per year to stop the madness in this part of the world.


...until someone who knows alot more than the rest of us want to impose their opinions on how the rest of us should live.


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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: yelkca280] #775301
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Originally Posted By: yelkca280
Of the 120 bucks killed and reported in limestone co I would put every dollar bill in my wallet on the table and bet that les than 5 of those deer were 3 yrs old or older. Hey I am all for hunting and harvesting game but we still have guys around here killing every buck that walks into killing range and they are not stopping at there three. I have known guys my entire life here that kill 20 to 30 bucks a year and you couldn't melt all the racks down and pour up a 130" rack. Pitiful! These people I speak of are not the ones reporting there deer either so how bad does that skew the numbers.



One question...how is a one buck limit gonna change this? If they are not obeying the law now, why would they stop at just one?


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Originally Posted By: yelkca280
Of the 120 bucks killed and reported in limestone co I would put every dollar bill in my wallet on the table and bet that les than 5 of those deer were 3 yrs old or older. Hey I am all for hunting and harvesting game but we still have guys around here killing every buck that walks into killing range and they are not stopping at there three. I have known guys my entire life here that kill 20 to 30 bucks a year and you couldn't melt all the racks down and pour up a 130" rack. Pitiful! These people I speak of are not the ones reporting there deer either so how bad does that skew the numbers.


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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #775473
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We have been a 3 buck club since 89. Last year we went to 2. It makes you look at them a little longer. I have 2 months to kill one more buck. I will be sitting down in the creek waiting on a good one.


Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784049
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Anyone else besides shocked to see Lamar Co so low on the numbers?

Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784062
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Those numbers are a joke.


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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784128
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Out of curiosity, if we had a bonafide mandatory tagging/reporting system the numbers in Limestone County were found to be truly low enough to suspend all deer hunting in the county for a period of at least a decade, would that be OK?

No deer hunting whatsoever. None. For at least 10 years. Same thing for turkeys.

All good with that?


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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: Clem] #784141
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Originally Posted By: Clem
Out of curiosity, if we had a bonafide mandatory tagging/reporting system the numbers in Limestone County were found to be truly low enough to suspend all deer hunting in the county for a period of at least a decade, would that be OK?

No deer hunting whatsoever. None. For at least 10 years. Same thing for turkeys.

All good with that?

No! We'll just import some high fence deer and keep on chootin!




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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784188
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Lamar hasnt got started good yet , those numbers will greatly increase over the next month .

Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: Clem] #784212
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[quote=Clem]Out of curiosity, if we had a bonafide mandatory tagging/reporting system the numbers in Limestone County were found to be truly low enough to suspend all deer hunting in the county for a period of at least a decade, would that be OK?

No deer hunting whatsoever. None. For at least 10 years. Same thing for turkeys.

All good with that?

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Sure, no problem. I have land else where.

As a mater of fact I have told our wardens and several other die hard turkey hunters agree that they need to close our season in limestone for several years. Hell what difference would it make? You can't kill what's not there!

Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784244
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Agree with the poster above. Those numbers are meaningless.

Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784278
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My opinion, it's a joke. People are not reporting deer they are killing. I was hoping it would be around 50% reporting but based on the numbers so far, it looks to be about 1 out of 50 deer or less being recorded. You can't make any decision with only 5% of accurate information. Which begs the question, should it have stayed mandatory?

Seat belts were optional for a while and when they made them mandatory, compliance went up. We now have a generation that instinctively wears them. Probably won't be the same for hunters reporting deer.

It's baffling to me why folks wouldn't report harvested deer.

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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784280
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I checked the numbers at Venison Creations in Camden on 12/01/13. There had been 512 deer turned in to be processed. The owner said at least 75% were from Wilcox County. As of today 12/17/13, 129 have been reported to Game Check. I don't know what to take form this but I was very disappointed in the difference in the numbers.


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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784281
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Jackson 135 220 362

looks like Jackson is where we all need to be huntin


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Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784307
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What concerns me about Jackson, well pretty much all of the state is the number of does to bucks being shot. I know the numbers ain't right, but what is there doesn't support a good buck/doe ratio it doesn't seem like to me.

Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: bamaeyedoc] #784450
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Originally Posted By: bamaeyedoc
My opinion, it's a joke. People are not reporting deer they are killing. I was hoping it would be around 50% reporting but based on the numbers so far, it looks to be about 1 out of 50 deer or less being recorded. You can't make any decision with only 5% of accurate information. Which begs the question, should it have stayed mandatory?

Seat belts were optional for a while and when they made them mandatory, compliance went up. We now have a generation that instinctively wears them. Probably won't be the same for hunters reporting deer.

It's baffling to me why folks wouldn't report harvested deer.

Dr. B


because ,,,,,

seat belts save lives .
counting dead deer does not help manage the herds .

Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784468
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The State's stance on seatbelts is a joke.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784475
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I hope the State is smart enough to know that if only a small percentage of deer are being reported that it isn't the same percentage for does and bucks if they try to extrapolate the data somehow. I bet a much larger percentage of does is reported than bucks considering you can only kill 3 total bucks in a season as opposed to 2 a day for does for the most part.

5054 does reported
3746 bucks

yeah sure.....

Re: Game Check #'s so far [Re: TrkyHntr] #784501
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It goes on everywhere. we need a tag system for bucks.

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Originally Posted By: spy
It goes on everywhere. we need a tag system for bucks.


Why? Just because you want it?

The low participation indicates most hunters don't want crap like that forced on them.

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