Velvet
by Mbrock. 04/28/24 09:16 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
143 registered members (HappyHunter, top cat, MGrubber, BhamFred, Ridge Life, blade, Herdbull, 4ssss, BamaPlowboy, MarkCollin, furnfeather, KnightRyder, Ol’Tom, mzzy, 3bailey3, foldemup, IDOT, Mbrock, coldtrail, knock him down, cbs, Treelimb, chill, johnv, Jotjackson, dave260rem!, alhawk, bambam32, Jay512, Andalusia, outdoorguy88, Turkeyneck78, Skinner, Tigger85, BCLC, treemydog, JustHunt, UA Hunter, square, Bustinbeards, Whild_Bill, GomerPyle, Shane99, lpman, canine933, CNC, Turkey_neck, Turkey, riflenut, GRINNING, Jwbfx4, catdoctor, gwstang, Blessed, Big AL 76, Madmax0818, MTeague, Narrow Gap, DoubleShoalsJR, brianr, bamaguzzi, ImThere, Holcomb, 3blades, Big Game Hunter, 25-20, JEM270, fladeerhntr, MikeP, HappyRuth, 4Him146, Thread Killer, Woody1, leroycnbucks, AustinC, Chancetribe, Okatuppa, hayman, cullmanbamafan, XVIII, jtillery, goodman_hunter, TravisBatey, IMISSALDEER, Scout308, CrimsonWSM, FreeStateHunter, Safetyman, slanddeerhunter, BOFF, BullMountain, TDog93, Chaser357, Mansfield, Turkey Petter, MR3391, Gunpowder, Megacott, Young20, HDS64, akbejeepin, roosterbob, LongBeards29, Squadron77, Big Buck Video, jarcher38, TexasHuntress, Stacey, brett.smith, Brian_C, Ben Ward, WhoMe, BigA47, Prohunter3509, Joe4majors, Detroitdan, Bmyers142, jhardy, Cutem, HoofNSpur, meats132, AUjerbear, mathews prostaff, Floorman1, Fullthrottle, turkeychaser, Bulls eye, Reptar, mauvilla, Marengo hunter, AKB, BigEd, Ron A., 10 invisible),
917
guests, and 0
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Re: Say your deer hunting Part2
[Re: blumsden]
#691371
09/27/13 03:43 AM
09/27/13 03:43 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,189 South Alabama
gobbler
12 point
|
12 point
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,189
South Alabama
|
The difference is between range wide declines and local population declines. I spent 10 years as a quail researcher in s ga/n fl/s al on quail plantations. Right now the quail plantations in s ga are experiencing the highest populations ever recorded, 2-3 birds per acre - on the ones practicing good management. Year round feeding, intensive predator control and habitat. Thomasville ga plantations make up 500,000 contiguous acres of good, managed habitat. Yet the state of ga is still experiencing range wide declines.
Ive got places here in al that are "managing habitat" but not practicing predator control and we see populations in the bird per 20-30 acres. On the bigger places here in al that manage well and trap, maybe a bird per acre. However, again, alabama has been experiencing a decline of 2-3% per year for decades - primarily related to habitat declines in both quantity and quality. There are places in alabama that quail are virtually extinct and it is not habitat loss per se but habitat changes that result in good habitat for deer and turkey maybe but not quail.
It may be "chicken and egg" concept since both were happening at the same time but I know quail can exist in viable numbers without predator control, but they will go extinct without the correct habitat.
Last edited by gobbler; 09/27/13 03:44 AM.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
|
|
|
Re: Say your deer hunting Part2
[Re: blumsden]
#691531
09/27/13 05:42 AM
09/27/13 05:42 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,189 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,189
alabama
|
last time I quail hunted south Ga one of their predator control practices was shooting every hawk they saw.
First day out guide sees a hawk and gets his rifle out. I ask if he knows it's illegal to shoot hawks. He replies no GW is ever going to know. I show him my Federal ID. He says he was just kididng about shooting the hawk.....LOL
Dang, that was one fine place though. Antebellum home, orange juice delivered to the bed at wakeup, BIG breakfast, LOTS of birds, good horses, great dogs.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
|
|
|
Re: Say your deer hunting Part2
[Re: BhamFred]
#691927
09/27/13 12:55 PM
09/27/13 12:55 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,189 South Alabama
gobbler
12 point
|
12 point
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,189
South Alabama
|
you do it like this: With dogs like this: get off and do this: All just for this: Spend the night here: Kinda reminds you of this from the 1930's: Beats the heck out of goat hunting! And we have officially completed the highjack!!
Last edited by gobbler; 09/27/13 12:56 PM.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
|
|
|
Re: Say your deer hunting Part2
[Re: blumsden]
#692282
09/27/13 04:59 PM
09/27/13 04:59 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,189 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,189
alabama
|
gobbler, that looks like the house we stayed at. We rode the horses, had a man to hold em while we got off and shot. All the guides/handlers wore white coats so they would be seen, said you'd be surprised at the crazy folks they get there.
I was a guest of a friend from England, he didn't hunt the first day due to business. His teenage son and I hunted, I let the boy do almost all the shooting. The guide finally said I didn't shoot because I was afraid I'd miss all the birds and look bad. Next rise I killed two bambam with my double 20, maybe two feet apart.....he didn't say anything else while I let the boy shoot.
Whats the name of the place in the pics????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
|
|
|
Re: Say your deer hunting Part2
[Re: blumsden]
#692285
09/27/13 04:59 PM
09/27/13 04:59 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,189 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,189
alabama
|
the buggy we used had 16 dog boxes on it, rotated dogs pretty quick.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
|
|
|
Re: Say your deer hunting Part2
[Re: blumsden]
#692321
09/27/13 05:20 PM
09/27/13 05:20 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,189 South Alabama
gobbler
12 point
|
12 point
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,189
South Alabama
|
Top pic is Pineland plantation (Albany Ga area) owned by the Mellons - close to 30,000 acres of fine bird habitat. 2nd pic is my bird dog on Nilo plantation owned by the Williams, I think around 20,000 acres, very historic place designed when Olin Mills folks owned it. Third pic is Peachburn plantation in Union Springs. 4th is right after third was taken. 5th is Rosina plantation in Thomasville Ga area. Last is Herbert Stoddard and Henry Beadle on Tall Timbers in North Fl.
I spent 3 years riding horses with the hunting parties tracking quail while hunting - very interesting. They rotate out dogs quick like 30 minutes or so and usually bring a lot of dogs. True wild birds are also hard to hit. I hunted with a friend in Union Springs the last week of season last year and we found 6 coveys in the afternoon - shot into all 6 - I shot 13 shells, he shot 15 - we never cut a feather. It was embarrassing!
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
|
|
|
|