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Re: Scope question
[Re: shooters]
#683435
09/19/13 09:06 AM
09/19/13 09:06 AM
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R_H_Clark
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the main reason i like the euro 3x12x56 with the 30 mm tubes is four that last 5 min. of legal shooting light in dark timber. this is also why i like the lighted recticle. the monarch 2.5x10x56 may be perfect for his needs. it is very clear and has good light transmission. new about 800, but you can find demo models that are on swfa sample list for 600. i have one on my light weight m70 300wsm . i use it al the time in the deep woods. good scope for the money and it has numbered turrets under the cap if you wanted to dial up to shoot longrange you could. they are alittle heavy though. 28 oz. i think . There again if you are in dark timber, are you going to need more than 3X? At such a low power setting your exit pupil is going to be maxed out as to what your eye can utilize even with a 40mm scope. There is no way in %$*&^ I'm going to carry around a 28 oz scope. If you are mounting it on a 15 LB rifle with an adjustable stock and shooting from a bench it doesn't matter if you mount a 72mm 3LB scope.
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Re: Scope question
[Re: shooters]
#683486
09/19/13 09:48 AM
09/19/13 09:48 AM
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Wiley Coyote
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3.5x15x56 nightforce with mlr lighted reticle is also hard to beat. Except for the weight. You don't realize how the weight adds up until you add a 3 or 4 pound scope to a weapon. I loved my Nightforce but it was not practical for hunting in the south.
Last edited by Wiley Coyote; 09/19/13 09:49 AM.
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Re: Scope question
[Re: shooters]
#683554
09/19/13 10:51 AM
09/19/13 10:51 AM
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
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bill collector i was wrong on the weight of the nikon 2.5x10x56, it weights 23.5 ounces. the zeiss conquest 3x12x56 weights 25.5 oz, and the meopta 3x12x56 weights 21.5 ounces. thats only 6 ounces more than some 40mm scope and all three can be found in the 600 dollar range you ask about. personally i would not let a 1/2 pound from getting a better scope. i have several 30mm 56mm scopes and would be glad to let you look they 1 of them so you can decide for your self. their is a HUGE difference in the bigger glass. I don't doubt there is a big difference but I would think the quality matters more than objective size unless we are talking higher magnification. You can't use more light than the human eye can receive with a max exit pupil on lower magnification. The discontinued Zeiss Diavari 2.5-10X42 was my idea of the perfect hunting scope.
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Re: Scope question
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#683627
09/19/13 12:10 PM
09/19/13 12:10 PM
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R_H_Clark
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r h clark, thats apples to oranges in this case. you are correct about quailty does matter over obj size,BUT the zeiss diavari 2.5x10x42 is a 1700 dollar scope. that is well out of the price rang he stated. the scope i was taling about were 600- 800 dollar range. both scopes we are talking about are 30mm tubes. with 56mm lenses in stead of 42 you get more light gather in capablity and a wider field of view. i get your point on max exit pupil and under stand it well. but if two cars got 10 mpg and 1 was 400 hp and the other was 500 hp , i will take the 500 hp. and every human eye cant be the same. my thing would be let him look threw several scopes and choose the best one four his price range Always a good idea to look at a bunch. I was just using the Diavari as an example of a smaller objective scope that is just as bright as the larger objective scopes at lower power because of glass quality. I could have bought one a couple weeks ago for $1100 if I could have spent the cash just then. Everyone should buy what fits their style of hunting. You like the large objectives on long range heavy rifles and in that situation I completely agree with a larger objective, because the rifle is already heavy and could even have adjustable cheek. Plus the larger objective is definitely brighter when you get above about 7X. Again I just offer an alternative view. My favorite hunting scope right now is a Kahles Helia CL 2-7X36 with 4A reticle. It's just about perfect for my , under 200 yards shots on lighter weight rifles, where I'm just as likely to shoot a jumped deer at 10 yards as one feeding at the edge of a field at 150 yards.
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Re: Scope question
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#689792
09/25/13 04:30 PM
09/25/13 04:30 PM
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Sharpshooter69
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I picked up my illuminated Meopta as a display for $650.00!!! I'd have bought two more if they'd had em !
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