has any of y'all heard of slick trick razor tricks blades breaking in the middle?it seems that hitting heavy bone they have broke i found this on the internet.i was thinking i don't shoot high poundage into heavy bone, heck i can't shoot high poundage i am too weak.like my doctor Richard porter field hull say s to me mike don't read so much on the internet. i think he is worried i would replace him. he is a nut. he told me to not hunt the same woods he is in.lol i laugh and said Dr i won't miss you. reading is is good brain food:)

You believe everything you read on the internet? Truth is, any of them can break or fail when hitting heavy bone. The only blade I have ever broken on one shooting a deer was on a Rocky Mountain Titanium. That's because it went through the shoulder blades of a 195# Mississippi 7pt. I've broken plenty of blades on all brands by hitting them with other heads while practicing. I sent a Muzzy 3 blade through the skull of a doe once and it didn't even hurt the broadhead. She was quartered away at 35 yards and jumped the string. The arrow went over the body and hit her in the back of the head as she turned to run.

The only slick trick i have broken was after it passed thru a deer and hit a rock in the ground.. Even then only chipped a blade.. i love their heads i think they are awesome. i have a bunch of them on my fireplace mantle. i usually retire them after i shoot a deer with one..

thanks for your info, no i am not as nieve as shaw thinks, after looking at the replacement blade they have a lot of holes that is weak spots, and with them only being .035 thick i can understand under that kind of force yep they can break it depend on the carbon content of the metal as to how brittle it is, they can break instead of bend. thanks for your reply i read they whistle kinda bad too:(

Mine don't whistle at all. All fixed blade replaceable type heads have holes to cut down on weight. They are thicker than most fixed heads. They fly great. Only one I have broken was on a sandstone rock after passing through a raccoon. Those heads are the best, toughest fixed blade on the market, period, and I have shot a lot of fixed heads.

Matt i thank you for your experience an d wisdom. i have gone back to bass pro shop to fix my error i ordered what at first was 6 bh from them for $15.99 which i looked closer as it was those are replacement blade, then i went back in after i settled down and ordered 1 pack of 3 broad heads for 29.99 which is still a penny cheaper than slick trick site are except for shipping, so with all my chasing my tail i now own 9 razor tricks which will be here this week.i have tracking info on the first 6 i ordered from slick tricks they will be her tomorrow according to USPS. and soon 6 replacement blades like a dummy i need to slow down and look closer instead of wasting money i don't have to waste. anyway i am excited with these new heads.:)matt if you need replacement blade after my screw up let me know i can fix you up if you trust memy main issue is i am old and have neurons in my brain that is damaged fro my stroke i first thought i was doing good then i found out i screwed up so i fixed it based on my paperwork i have 112 cx arrows i need bh's for and 9 gold tips i need bh besides the rage and grim reapers for i don't believe i am shooting enough power for them to work good, then at home with my crossbow arrows i have 6 Excalibur bolt cutters150 grain, and 6 muzzy mx3's125 grain so i might be able to get going without buying more stuff.

All fixed blade replaceable type heads have holes to cut down on weigh i am such a dummy i can't believe i messed up that bad, nothing to waste i helped the conservation funds today buying blades and broad heads.:) and paying sales tax on it.All fixed blade replaceable type heads have holes to cut down on weigh / true that is why i don't shoot thunder heads any more even this deft guy can hear them

copied from Dr Ed Ashby web site it is his studies and reasearch involved here, read and studied this subject referencing many different sources. It is confusing at best. The terms Kinetic Energy and Momentum, while different are used simultaneously and interchangeably to describe the energy of the bow and arrow. The explanation you will get on this site is an over simplification or synopsis of the subject. For an in-depth technical discussion please refer to the recommended readings listed below.



Kinetic energy is really a measurement of the total energy an arrow and broad head develop at a given moment of time while being delivered by a particular bow. The reason the measurement is only at a particular moment is that as soon as the arrow is released, and until it hits the intended target, it is continually losing speed. As the velocity decreases so will the Kinetic energy. This reinforces the assertion that KE is a measurement of energy for the bow as this will be the place of the highest KE measurement and the lowest measurement will be at the target.
The KE measurement is a useful measurement when comparing different arrow and broad head combinations shot from the same bow or determining how much energy a bow creates. It is not a practical measurement to determine what effect the arrow will have in penetrating an animal. Some archers swear by KE and believe that only a bow delivering a certain amount of KE should be used for hunting purpose. This is contrary to what the KE formula tells us.



The kinetic energy formula is:

“1/2 Mass times velocity squared” or “KE = (1/2 M) x (V2)”



For your convenience use the inter-active formula below to

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using his calculator i have 54.35 ft lbs of ke with my setup which is plenty to kill a deer.i will be shooting 365.3 grains of mass at maybe 260fps. if i am lucky with the razor tricks i should based on Dr Ed Ashby information and what Matt Brock has told me, i don't know physics i never took it in school. it is Greek to me. i do know from years of experience with 45 pound re curve and bear razor head s i have a winner dead deer will follow.

I'm sorry I misread your post Blackhawk. My experience is with the standard and magnum blades. With that said the razor tricks are an excellent choice.

DR ED ASHBY Headhunter you are hunting the largest game found on the plains of Africa or hunting whitetail deer, moose, elk, antelope, bear, bison, or hogs in the forest, and mountains of North America the TuffHead™ will be the only broad head you will ever need.



You can hunt with confidence, knowing that The TuffHead™ will fly true, and perform flawlessly.


The TuffHead™ can be glued directly on the arrow or screwed in with an adapter. Made of 420HC stainless steel, this tough 3 to 1 ratio laminated head is designed with a cut-on-contact 30 degree tanto tip, and is ground with a single-bevel, 25 degree, factory sharp cutting edge.

Dimensions:TuffHead tip with dimensions
The TuffHead™ is 3 3/16 inches long by 1 1/16 inches wide at the widest point for a 3:1 ratio. This ratio has been proven over a long time as the ultimate design for flight, penetration and high mechanical advantage. The high MA of 3.0 intensifies, or adds to the ability of the broad head to penetrate its target.



Tuffhead™ Weight:
The TuffHead™ is the “Heavy Weight of Broad heads™“ and is offered in two distinct weights. At .060 thousandths thick the TuffHead ™ weighs in at 225 grains. At .080 thousandths thick it is 300 grains. Both broad heads have the same basic dimension that is 3 3/16 long x 1 1/16 wide.250 & 300 Grain Tuffhead

The TuffHead™ is the only broad head on the market that is designed to give wood arrow shooters an opportunity to increase their arrow weight into the desired weight thresholds (over 650 grains) for increased penetration of both soft and hard tissue. Using the TuffHead™ archers can create ( FOC ) weight forward of center hunting arrows also increasing penetration. For a discussion on the benefits of increased arrow weight visit our education/formulas_momentum.html page.

The TuffHead also lends itself and has found a niche with modern arrow enthusiast. When using the TuffHead™ in conjunction with a 75 grain, 100 grain, and a 125 grain steel broadhead adapter, for arrows that except only screw-on style points, the archer can obtain weights of 300 to 425 grains with many variations in between. With this flexibility the hunter can experiment and obtain arrows weights that meet FOC, EFOC and Ultra EFOC standards. See education/Formulas_FOC.html for a discussion on this subject

thos would be like using a spear they are so big. i feel mat t an i have the model of st's i am using the razor tricks i feel that they will be good for my setup at 54.3 pound of kinetic energy, and 35 pound draw weight.

MATT I LOVE AND AGREE WITH YOUR QUOTE I READ A LOT SOMETIMES MAYBE NOT THE RIGHT THING I HAVE YET TO FIND GUIDANCE ON WHICH BROAD HEAD TO USE IN THE BIBLE:)ISSAC SAID TAKE UP YOUR QUIVER AND BOW TO THE FIELD AND GET ME SOME VENISON THAT TOLD ME HE LOVES DEER MEAT ISAAC SAID LIKE ME I AM SO HAPPY ABOUT THAT:) HE SAID MAKE IT SAVORY I DO:)IN Genesis CHAPTER27: VERSE 3 PRAISE JESUS I FOUND INFO ABOUT HUNTING I GAVE TO MY WIFE THAT WEARS ME THIN ABOUT MY OCD OVER HUNTING.I AM SURE SHE WOULD FELL DIFFERENT IF I WORKED FOR DCNR.

WTF, X a bunch

2 DOG I AM SORRY YOU CAN'T READ AND THERE IS NO PICTURES

IN THIS CASE DON'T ASK.LEARN TO USE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE BESIDE WTF.

Blackhawk, to be honest with you, with a 35# draw weight shooting a 365.3 arrow you're going to be extremely lucky to even get 40 ft. lbs. of KE. You will not come close to getting to 260fps with that set up. You will be lucky to shoot 220fps. But, with the right cut on contact head, you will not have any problems taking down a deer. Most of my hunting set up's have never reached 260fps and I'm pulling 62 to 63#.

either way draw blood and the deer will die, speed only matters to some people not this one penetration/ momentum matters like troy on the swamp people say choot um, choot um.is fine with me.my muzzle loader is not as fast as my 243 but it hits the deer like a mach truck. so speed does not matter i like shooting heavy arrows they make the bow quitter think of momentum if you have heavy sharp mass hitting your target it will hurt something, can kill it.the lack of speed does not bother me i have killed many deer with a 45 pound re curve using the Bear 145 grain heads on fiber glass shafts

ROFL
Sorry, I and I bet some others was having a little trouble following your chain posts. But, "LEARN TO USE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE....." good one.
Carry on.

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