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20 years ago this Saturday
#623482
07/11/13 12:58 PM
07/11/13 12:58 PM
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Posts: 15,547 Panhandle Florida
PaschalBD
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My favorite driver Davey Allison died and for me Nascar has never been the same. I followed the 28 team afterwards and even became a fan of Dale Jarrett because of Robert Yates. Davey was gonna be the Jeff Gordon of his time. I even believe Gordon wouldn't have won as many cup titles because Davey was that good and was just beginning a run of titles himself. He was also a great person. Wish he had never tried flying a stupid helicopter.
Anybody remeber the Joe Diffie rumors involving Davey's wife after his death? I wonder if some of that was true or not.
A servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: PaschalBD]
#623485
07/11/13 01:03 PM
07/11/13 01:03 PM
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Posts: 12,927 In a Van, down by the River
quailman
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I remember the day a guy walked into my job and told me Dave had died that morning. Kick in the gut. You're right. He was destined to be a great one. And old ass Red Farmer crawled out of that helo unhurt.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: PaschalBD]
#623489
07/11/13 01:07 PM
07/11/13 01:07 PM
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Posts: 7,595 Hartselle, AL
trlrdrdave
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Yea I remember it well. Just like a very close friend had died. I had met Davey and the whole Alabama gang before. I still watch Nascar, but you are right it just ain't the same.
"In time of war, send me all the Alabamians you can get, but in time of peace, for Lord's sake, send them to somebody else." General Edward H. Plummer
"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight." Jeff Cooper
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: PaschalBD]
#623495
07/11/13 01:17 PM
07/11/13 01:17 PM
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Posts: 23,919 Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...
bill
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I was an Earnhardt fan and hated Davy with a passion. That 28 car was the freaking fastest thing on the track nearly every week and Earnhardt could only beat him on occasion because he was just that much better than everyone else. As much as I disliked Davy(because he was a serious challenge to beat my guy every week) I was extremely sad when he died. You had to respect him even if you didn't want him to win. I quit caring about Nascar the day Earnhardt died.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: trlrdrdave]
#623498
07/11/13 01:20 PM
07/11/13 01:20 PM
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MTeague
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THE AIR WAS ALL BUT AFLAME WITH THE stories. Someone said she'd seen country singer Joe Diffie tooling around Hueytown, Ala., in a truck belonging to hometown hero Davey Allison, the champion NASCAR driver who died after a July helicopter crash at Alabama's Talladega speedway. Someone else said Diffie was staying at the Allison house with Davey's widow, Liz. And there were even rumors that Liz and Joe had gotten married.
It was enough to make some of the locals want to jump in their pickups and run Diffie all the way back home to Nashville. A sign saying, "Hueytown—Home of Joe Diffie—Built by Davey Allison," appeared briefly at a busy intersection near Liz's newly finished mansion, and some of Davey's fans threatened to picket the house with signs reading "28," the number of his race car. Says Hueytown home-maker Frankie Roberson: "I'd like to tell Joe Diffie to keep his butt at home. Liz didn't even give Davey time to get cold in his grave."
Talk of the affair even upstaged discussion of football on the radio, a near sacrilege in gridiron-worshipping Alabama. "It was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen," says Paul Finebaum, who hosts a sports talk show on Birmingham's WERC-AM. "Two of the biggest [college] games in the country were in Alabama that week, and all people wanted to talk about was Liz and Joe. We had people saying they knew for a fact she was pregnant with Joe's baby. We had people saying Liz Allison was the biggest slut in town."
Before anybody got out a rope, Liz and Joe decided to come forward and tell PEOPLE their side of the story. Joe admits that the two are "falling in love." But, says Liz, 28, who has two children by Davey, Krista, 3, and Robert, 2, "this is not a slap in Davey's face. This is a woman trying to go on with her life. And there's not a day that goes by that I don't grieve."
Liz and Joe shake their heads at the rumors that have spread since they began dating in August. "We are not married, we're not living together, and she's not pregnant," says Joe, 34. He adds that his impending divorce from second wife Debbie, 35, after six years of marriage, was inevitable long before he met Allison. (The Diffies have two children, Tyler, 4, and Drew, 2.) "Anyone who knows us knows that," he says.
In fact, though Joe met Liz briefly twice before, when she and Davey came backstage after concerts, he says he didn't see her again until he heard she was trying to get the sheet music for his 1992 hit, "Ships That Don't Come In," to play at Davey's funeral on July 15. A longtime NASCAR fan, Diffie volunteered to perform the song himself. "Then I called her a couple of weeks later to see how she and her children were doing," says Joe.
As the phone calls continued—and the conversations grew longer and more personal—Joe invited Liz to his Aug. 3 show in Philadelphia, Miss., and romance bloomed. "It wasn't anything I was looking for, but it happened," says Liz. "When Davey died, I thought, 'How will I ever go forward with my life? I'll never have anybody I can share my life with again.' And then Joe and I became friends."
Soon afterward, Liz told Davey's parents, NASCAR great Bobby Allison and his wife, Judy, that she was dating Joe. Although some of the Allisons' friends contend that the family is less than pleased by the romance, Liz says the Allisons "have welcomed [Joe] and have been wonderful to me." Davey's grandmother, Kitty Allison, says, "I think she has the right to do what she wants." Elisa Allison, 33, widow of Davey's younger brother, Clifford, who was killed in an August 1992 race-car crash, agrees: "It's like I told Liz, 'When we go home at night and shut our doors, it's us who grieve.' If she feels like she needs someone to help her through this, that's her prerogative. I think Davey would be happy that Liz is getting on with her life."
The couple also have defenders in the NASCAR world. Diffie received a warm welcome at an Oct. 23 concert before the Winston Cup race, and Joan Farmer—wife of retired racer Red Farmer, who was injured in the copter crash that killed Davey—says she's tired of strangers asking her about [Liz and Joe] and even "cussed a woman out in Wal-Mart" for being nosy.
Of course, not everyone has been so forgiving. "Joe Diffie wouldn't dare come in here," says Gay Ann McCrary, owner of Hueytown's popular Iceburg Restaurant, where the paneled rear dining room is a virtual shrine to the Allisons. "I know a lot of people that won't buy his records anymore."
But Liz and Joe say they're prepared for hard feelings. "Whether it was a month after Davey died or years after he died, somebody was not going to be exactly happy about [the relationship]," says Joe. "But we have to do what we feel is right and go with how our hearts feel. And that's what we're trying to do."
I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: bill]
#623500
07/11/13 01:34 PM
07/11/13 01:34 PM
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Posts: 12,927 In a Van, down by the River
quailman
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I was an Earnhardt fan and hated Davy with a passion. That 28 car was the freaking fastest thing on the track nearly every week and Earnhardt could only beat him on occasion because he was just that much better than everyone else. As much as I disliked Davy(because he was a serious challenge to beat my guy every week) I was extremely sad when he died. You had to respect him even if you didn't want him to win. I quit caring about Nascar the day Earnhardt died. Same here Bill. Big 3 car fan. Still have his stuff in my house and office. NASCAR hasn't been the same since he died.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: 49er]
#623505
07/11/13 01:43 PM
07/11/13 01:43 PM
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Posts: 1,251 St. Clair County
Dragfan66
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I used to watch him at BIR when he was a kid. Was a fine racer back then too. That reminds me of Red Farmer, he could drive anything. Is he still around?
Don't confuse my user name with any sort of alphabet faggotry.
It only stands for drag racing, and Route 66 was my home track back in the day.
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: PaschalBD]
#623520
07/11/13 02:27 PM
07/11/13 02:27 PM
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Posts: 5,103 McCalla, Alabama
MarkBAMA
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I remember driving to work in Bham and everyone traveling on the interstate having their lights on for respect for what seemed like a week.
That black Havoline 28 was tough to handle. I remember watching him have a horrible crash at Ponoco the year before he died thinking that was the end of him.
ROLL TIDE !!!
Enough Said....
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: MarkBAMA]
#623527
07/11/13 02:47 PM
07/11/13 02:47 PM
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Posts: 4,317 Boaz,Al,Mexican Paradise
OcToBeRDrEaMiN67
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He was a friend of mine as is the whole family.Bobby and Davey tried to convert me to Nascarism when we were young.I just have to be brutally honest.I would rather have a fully awake colonoscopy than to have to watch one hour of a race.I put it and watching golf in the same circle.I dont cry much but I did the day he died.I have twenty of the Jimmy Dean -Davey Allison racing cards that plenty of people have tried to buy from me over the years.I couldnt sell not one of them with a clear conscience.It would make me feel like I am making a profit off of his death.
Psalm 27:1 The Lord is my light and my salvation,whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life;of whom shall I be afraid?
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: OcToBeRDrEaMiN67]
#623545
07/11/13 03:06 PM
07/11/13 03:06 PM
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Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,547 Panhandle Florida
PaschalBD
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He was a friend of mine as is the whole family.Bobby and Davey tried to convert me to Nascarism when we were young.I just have to be brutally honest.I would rather have a fully awake colonoscopy than to have to watch one hour of a race.I put it and watching golf in the same circle.I dont cry much but I did the day he died.I have twenty of the Jimmy Dean -Davey Allison racing cards that plenty of people have tried to buy from me over the years.I couldnt sell not one of them with a clear conscience.It would make me feel like I am making a profit off of his death. Was he as good a person as he seemed? Can you tell us some things about him?
A servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ.
USAF Veteran
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: PaschalBD]
#623550
07/11/13 03:22 PM
07/11/13 03:22 PM
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Posts: 4,317 Boaz,Al,Mexican Paradise
OcToBeRDrEaMiN67
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I aint saying that we were bros that hung out so I dont know deep details about his life but yes I thought he was a great guy.I actually got to know him through a lady I worked with that was Bobby's kin.Tomorrow is actually the anniversary of when the tragedy happened.He didnt pass until the next day at Carraway.
Psalm 27:1 The Lord is my light and my salvation,whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life;of whom shall I be afraid?
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: PaschalBD]
#623562
07/11/13 03:32 PM
07/11/13 03:32 PM
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click-boom
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Yes Red is still around and still racing. He is getting his grandson started in racing. Just go to little Talladega on a Saturday night and he will be there slinging dirt with all the young guys.
kill em all let God sort em out
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: Dragfan66]
#623565
07/11/13 03:36 PM
07/11/13 03:36 PM
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Posts: 1,719 Hueytown,Ala
bshunt
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I used to watch him at BIR when he was a kid. Was a fine racer back then too. That reminds me of Red Farmer, he could drive anything. Is he still around? He is still around.I see him once or twice a week.
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: bshunt]
#623576
07/11/13 03:52 PM
07/11/13 03:52 PM
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Posts: 24,832 Buc-ee’s Beach Express
leroycnbucks
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Living in west Montgomery county I remember back in the seventies when the Alabama gang would race at the Montgomery international speedway. That was real racing back in the day and it was fun to watch. Unlike the crap that is on the track today.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: PaschalBD]
#623668
07/11/13 06:22 PM
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I've been to quite a few funerals. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a man and woman so absolutely heartbroken as Bobby and his wife at Clifford's funeral. It was gut-wrenching.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: Dragfan66]
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07/11/13 06:33 PM
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I used to watch him at BIR when he was a kid. Was a fine racer back then too. That reminds me of Red Farmer, he could drive anything. Is he still around? Friday nights at BIR were a lot of fun. Some really good drivers cut their teeth on that track. I guess I saw all the Allison's race there back in the early 70's. Good times.
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Re: 20 years ago this Saturday
[Re: PaschalBD]
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07/12/13 01:59 AM
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I am friends with Alton Jones, other wise known as "Burger in a Hurry" at BIR. I've talked with him about the old days at BIR and the Alabama Gang. I'm to young to know much about it other than stories but I could sit there for hours and pick his brain on some of those stories. I could tell some but some of the important details would be wrong. Most that I've heard were funny, some dramatic but all are very entertaining.
If your decoy doesnt have holes in it, your not letting him get close enough... J.H.
"Life lessons are almost never found where you think they should be, sometimes they're in the middle of a small, muddy creek in the woods with steep banks"... DeadorAlive
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