No offense but maybe you shouldn't be shooting that far unless you put the time in behind the trigger. I've killed a lot of deer with my 7mag and like tc said I've had to trail one deer I shot at 200 yards behind the shoulder with a fail safe she ran maybe a 100-150 yards

None of this mattered because once you get this rifle built a 180" buck is gonna step out 5 yards away and when you throw the gun up you won't be able to turn your 6-24 scope down enough to get a good shot.

I shoot a 7 mag, with 140gr Nosler Partitions and it kills like a lazer beam, almost never have a deer move 10 yards.

Your problem is in bullet selection. Most 7 mag bullets are designed for elk and do not open fast enough for thin skinned, smaller whitetail deer.

there is no such thing as a bullet moving too fast to open up, the faster you push ANY bullet the faster and more it will expand.

I shoot a 7 mag, with 140gr Nosler Partitions and it kills like a lazer beam, almost never have a deer move 10 yards.

Your problem is in bullet selection. Most 7 mag bullets are designed for elk and do not open fast enough for thin skinned, smaller whitetail deer.

there is no such thing as a bullet moving too fast to open up, the faster you push ANY bullet the faster and more it will expand.

My boss once mentioned that those fast bullets didnt have time to expand, they just went through too fast.
I really didnt know what to say. I did not say what I was thinking anyway.

i am having some trouble deciding what i want. i dont have a lot of money to throw at a rifle but here is what i am looking at. i want to build a rifle that i can shoot confidently out to 600 yds with because i love to hunt powerlines. i think i am going to go with a savage. i am left handed so i cant get just any gun they make. i can shoot a r/h gun but i want it to feel like its mine, getting a r/h gun is simply not an option i am going to consider on this gun. i have been looking at the savage 111 trophy hunter xp left handed rifles. i really like the accutrigger and savage is to me the most accurate rifle in its price class. i am really wanting some help on caliber. i dont like 7 mags because to me the bullet is just moving too fast to mushroom on an alabama whitetail. i also dont want a 243. i want something with minimal recoil so there wont be any flinch factor on my end. i am hung up between 308, 7mm08, and 270. which caliber would be the best platform for building my powerline rifle, capable of shooting from 100- 600 yds? on a side note i would like to be able to take this rifle out west to kill an elk as well if i get the chance. i will be putting a leupold 4.5x14x50 vx3 with the leupold custom target turret on top and a bedded aftermarket stock on this gun. it does not come with the accustock.

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try to find someone else who has killed a deer with a remington 7400 30-06 without target turrets from 450.

I'm your Huckleberry if a Browning BAR 30-06, with a 4 power scope and a fence post for a rest, at 425 counts?

i am listening. i am considering a 300 win mag now. just not a fan of 7 mags. thats all. i would not have made this thread if i knew exactly what i wanted. i do know exactly what i didnt want and that was a 7 mag, i even stated that in the first post. about 90 percent of people who own a 7 mag think that everyone else should too. even if the person who they are telling this to recently traded their 7 mag for a new bow and would not own another pos 7 mag.

yep that counts. now have some knowitall on here tell you that you dont shoot enough and you shouldnt be shooting deer at 600 yds.

would this be a 7 mm short mag?

my capt here at the fire dept has a 270 short mag and he loves it. i have never delved into the world of the short magnums.

Got a buddy has a Lazzeroni Firebird, it's a 7mm sitting on what looks like a 50 cal case. High voltage power line king!

i dont think i would be that accurate if a deer came out on the powerline and a guy says, hold on, let me back this mule up to you and right when you shoot it going to kick you off your stool.