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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: JW]
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11/04/12 06:16 PM
11/04/12 06:16 PM
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Fun4all
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Are the people that are so hell bent for leather on a tag systems the same ones that posted on the scared in the dark thread? It sure seems like the same drone year after year that all of those evil other hunters are just slaughtering bucks and the gubment better do something about it. You know I was talking with a fellow just the other day that said his father's cousin's uncle's ex-wife's husband's son's girlfriend's brother had already shot 12 bucks with his bow and only shows one on his 3rd printed out card. I don't know about you, but that's gotta stop or there won't be any bucks for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get a grip folks! 1-800-272-GAME or email GAMEWATCH@DCNR.alabama.gov
Self policing is the best way, but I guess that means taking some responsibility!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: JW]
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11/04/12 07:15 PM
11/04/12 07:15 PM
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I also think it is time to limit doe harvest.
I agree 100% there. I agree there needs to be a limit of some kind per hunter probably different for each county or section of the state From 1 to 3 depending on county.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
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11/04/12 08:18 PM
11/04/12 08:18 PM
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I also think it is time to limit doe harvest.
I agree 100% there. I agree there needs to be a limit of some kind per hunter probably different for each county or section of the state From 1 to 3 depending on county. What if you have a large amout of acreage per number of hunters? In the moutains of NA, many situations 3 is nowhere near enough.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: 2Dogs]
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11/04/12 08:29 PM
11/04/12 08:29 PM
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I also think it is time to limit doe harvest.
I agree 100% there. I agree there needs to be a limit of some kind per hunter probably different for each county or section of the state From 1 to 3 depending on county. What if you have a large amout of acreage per number of hunters? In the moutains of NA, many situations 3 is nowhere near enough. I'm with ya! What if you are doing good management, creating excellent fawning habitat and killing all your coyotes and the State limits you to 1-3 does as some are suggesting? Should you just let your population overgrow the habitat? What if you truly don't want very many deer?
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: gobbler]
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11/04/12 08:49 PM
11/04/12 08:49 PM
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I also think it is time to limit doe harvest.
I agree 100% there. I agree there needs to be a limit of some kind per hunter probably different for each county or section of the state From 1 to 3 depending on county. What if you have a large amout of acreage per number of hunters? In the moutains of NA, many situations 3 is nowhere near enough. I'm with ya! What if you are doing good management, creating excellent fawning habitat and killing all your coyotes and the State limits you to 1-3 does as some are suggesting? Should you just let your population overgrow the habitat? What if you truly don't want very many deer? Between my post and yours, we are describing my place. Hope "the State" don't tie my management hands. I can shoot what's NEEDED in season, or the farmers can shoot everything they see in the Summer.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: JW]
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11/04/12 09:04 PM
11/04/12 09:04 PM
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Deer hunting just seems to bring out the worst in some folks it seems the laws are always for the other guy to some people, just like a true hunter see your camera your stand he just walks on by ......some just can`t resist they have to take whats doesn`t belong to them. Just like shooting that fourth buck he doesn`t belong to you................Honor system does work in most clubs.........
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
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11/04/12 09:50 PM
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I also think it is time to limit doe harvest.
I agree 100% there. You have a neighbor near you that needs limiting for sure. The son is finally seeing the light, I doubt dad ever will. he's not he only one, we got several bragging about 15-20 a year, some brag they never quit hunting them, pretty sure they're not blowing smoke GWs are aware just haven't been able to do anything as of yet same goes for deer
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
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11/04/12 10:29 PM
11/04/12 10:29 PM
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I also think it is time to limit doe harvest.
I agree 100% there. You have a neighbor near you that needs limiting for sure. The son is finally seeing the light, I doubt dad ever will. he's not he only one, we got several bragging about 15-20 a year, some brag they never quit hunting them, pretty sure they're not blowing smoke GWs are aware just haven't been able to do anything as of yet same goes for deer I've killed 15-20 does several years but never over 3 bucks, even when there was a buck a day limit. Each property is different.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: FurFlyin]
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11/05/12 09:08 AM
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In Alabama the 5 bird turkey limit has been on the honor system as long as I can remember, yet I've never heard of a push for a turkey tagging system. I guess they are more honorable turkey hunters than deer hunters in Bama. The turkey hunters that I know police themselves/each other. Anybody shoots one over and they'll get turned in or a good ol boy butt whipping. Well, so far, getting turned in hasn't made any difference. As far as I know, the state has NEVER prosecuted anyone for killing more than 5 turkeys in a season. That's over a period of nearly 50 years. If you can't make even one case in 50 years, I'd say the law is likely unenforceable. With that example already in place, how could anyone have thought that a buck limit would be any different? I've yet to hear of anyone actually prosecuted for killing more than 3 bucks in a season. They've got some poor guys who forgot to do their paperwork, but I've yet to hear of a case against someone where they had actual proof that he killed more than 3 bucks. There is no tag system that will not be easy to get around by those who want to do so. The one-buck limit in KY is a joke to many of the locals; they kill all they want.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
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11/05/12 09:37 AM
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preacher, ... There is no tag system that will not be easy to get around by those who want to do so. The one-buck limit in KY is a joke to many of the locals; they kill all they want. I doubt if it would be near as easy to get around a buck tag system issued under DMAP. If the hunters deer managers who share the property agree to participate, they will be more likely to be there to hear a shot or see someone trying to sneak a deer out without tagging him. Not fool proof, but much better than trying to lay it all on the game wardens who need to be doing the serious conservation enforcement that petty feel-good rules take them away from.
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: JW]
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11/05/12 10:34 AM
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preacher, I've never hear of anyone being arrested for killing over the season limit in Al on turkeys. Enforcement offers have for years and years asked for a tagging system on turkeys to at least try and curb the illegal killing. Those requests go in the circular file in Montgomery....
Ga had a tagging system when I lived there in the 70's and I knew of several arrests for having untagged or illegally tagged deer in possession. One fella had a buck with his wifes tag on it, fresh killed. Wife was still at home. Didn't fly....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: 49er]
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11/05/12 11:43 AM
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poorcountrypreacher
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preacher, ... There is no tag system that will not be easy to get around by those who want to do so. The one-buck limit in KY is a joke to many of the locals; they kill all they want. I doubt if it would be near as easy to get around a buck tag system issued under DMAP. If the hunters deer managers who share the property agree to participate, they will be more likely to be there to hear a shot or see someone trying to sneak a deer out without tagging him. Not fool proof, but much better than trying to lay it all on the game wardens who need to be doing the serious conservation enforcement that petty feel-good rules take them away from. 49er, I agree a tag system would give the GW a better chance of catching somebody, but most of those who want to break the law are still gonna be able to do it without much fear of getting caught. But that's true with most any game law. To get many hunters to obey the law, you just gotta convince them its in their best interest to do so. >>>preacher, I've never hear of anyone being arrested for killing over the season limit in Al on turkeys. Enforcement offers have for years and years asked for a tagging system on turkeys to at least try and curb the illegal killing. Those requests go in the circular file in Montgomery....<<< I've asked several GWs and biologists, and nobody could ever name a case, so I've just started saying its never happened. Nobody has proved me wrong yet. >>>Ga had a tagging system when I lived there in the 70's and I knew of several arrests for having untagged or illegally tagged deer in possession. One fella had a buck with his wifes tag on it, fresh killed. Wife was still at home. Didn't fly....<<< I'm sure that kinda system will produce some arrests. I'm kinda ambivalent about tags. It would help the GWs make a few cases, so I'm not against them, but I don't think their impact would be biologically significant. The law-abiding hunters are gonna do right; the outlaws are gonna do wrong. But just think how easy it would have been to implement the Barbour Co rule in most other counties. You've either got a legal deer or an illegal deer. No paperwork, no tags, no nothing, except near complete protection of the 1.5 class of bucks. But that ship has sailed.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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11/05/12 12:12 PM
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But just think how easy it would have been to implement the Barbour Co rule in most other counties. You've either got a legal deer or an illegal deer. No paperwork, no tags, no nothing, except near complete protection of the 1.5 class of bucks. But that ship has sailed. Here we go again...Why don't you just agree with me and get it over with, you'll eventually get there anyway, don't drag out the pain
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: JW]
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11/05/12 01:39 PM
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I think there should be a law against copy-n-paste. Freaking killing me having to scroll through something I've already read. I don't think I've done it once in 10 yrs! Carry on!
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
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11/05/12 03:31 PM
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They ain't cutting and pasting. They are using the quote feature. When they do that, it looks like this: I think there should be a law against copy-n-paste. Freaking killing me having to scroll through something I've already read. I don't think I've done it once in 10 yrs! Carry on! ... and then when the guy replies using the quote feature again, it stacks up. This is cut and paste: Section 9-2-2 Powers and duties generally.
The general functions and duties of the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources shall be as follows:
(1) To protect, conserve, and increase the wildlife of the state and to administer all laws relating to wildlife and the protection, conservation, and increase thereof. (with emphasis added) Don't be calling the quote feature cut and paste. If I was a liberal, I might want get a law passed to make you quit calling the quote feature cut and paste. Since I'm a conservative, I don't think that's the legitimate purpose of government and I won't ask for such a law.
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
[Re: JW]
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11/05/12 05:17 PM
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I enjoy reading new info. I guess it is quotes, not copynpaste. I misspoke, but you get it. Sorry for the hijack
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system
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11/05/12 07:09 PM
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Is the buck population near extinction and therefore needs a tagging system imposed on honest folks?? If it is then I say bring it on! However, if it is only to prevent someone from shooting a deer that someone else deems it antlers to be too small or too immature and just create more words on paper for people to feel good, then go forth and write up all of the rules regulations and laws for your own property and be the big sheriff in your own one horse town.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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