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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #429922
10/22/12 03:07 PM
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I can't believe no one else has said this, so let me be the first...... He would have been a good one next year!


Just joking. Once in a lifetime trophy there. No trail cam pics from the summer?


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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #429963
10/22/12 03:58 PM
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Haha, I actually got that comment from a guy down at the club, followed by " the only thing that would make it better is if I had killed him". Thank you guys for the comments, definitely a once in a lifetime opportunity and experience. And yes you are correct about what I was thinking when I saw him...."#$%&+&%$$#&*"

No trailcam pics, no sightings or any word of him before I saw him Friday morning.

Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #429986
10/22/12 04:39 PM
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That is freakin awesome right there!! Congrats!!!



Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #429988
10/22/12 04:46 PM
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Guntersville, AL
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Very cool

Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #429991
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I use to see one all the time on the side of the road in Marengo County. Saw him two years in a row.


Will track deer in Marengo, Greene, Sumter, Wilcox, Perry, Hale counties.
Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #430024
10/22/12 05:31 PM
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Drummons have a high fence all the way round their property. It is located right across the road from Forever wild or the old State cattle ranch. Do not know if they have any fallow deer on their property or not.


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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #430108
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That is unreal. Congrats!


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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #430155
10/22/12 07:43 PM
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That is awesome. Congrats

Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #430168
10/22/12 07:50 PM
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Congrats on a very unique buck! I killed a couple of fallow bucks near Millers Ferry back in the 70s. One had 18 pts and the other 14. They were much flatter than the antlerson yours, and really didnt look like him at all.


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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #430200
10/22/12 08:05 PM
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I have seen some picture of typical fallow antlers, most of them get wide (front to back)and web like. These started to get like that, but something makes me wonder if this could be a product of a whitetail/fallow breeding. Although i have been told that they will not breed together, consider if you are a lonley fallow walking around, and you see a hot doe whitetail, and possibly a few beers later..magic could happen. I'm hoping to get some insight from a wildlife biologist or maybe someone that knows a lot about the fallow

Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #430229
10/22/12 08:23 PM
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I'm guessing its completely legal to kill these should I ever see one right? What are the laws for those in the know.

Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #430266
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Nice congrats


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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #430561
10/23/12 06:44 AM
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They have some fallow deer at Donavan Lakes fishing club south of Marion,not to far from Greensboro.

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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #431417
10/23/12 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: CWolbach
I have seen some picture of typical fallow antlers, most of them get wide (front to back)and web like. These started to get like that, but something makes me wonder if this could be a product of a whitetail/fallow breeding. Although i have been told that they will not breed together, consider if you are a lonley fallow walking around, and you see a hot doe whitetail, and possibly a few beers later..magic could happen. I'm hoping to get some insight from a wildlife biologist or maybe someone that knows a lot about the fallow


There were several killed in the Camden area back in the 70s that showed characteristics that would indicate a cross between a fallow and a whitetail. I know that a whitetail buck will breed a mule deer doe, and have read several articles about the detrimental effect that is having on the mule deer population in areas where they overlap. The mule deer buck is not aggressive enough to breed a whitetail doe, but the whitetail buck has no problem with the mule deer doe. I'd think they'd have no problem handling a fallow doe either. It would be interesting to find out if this deer is a cross.

I've often wondered if the fallow does getting bred by whitetail bucks was partly responsible for the fallow deer decline in Wilcox Co. Any hybrid would be sterile, and it may be that the whitetail bucks had as much to do with their disappearance as hunters.

Here's the antlers from my largest fallow. I've seen some that were much larger. As you can see, they look a lot different from CWolbach's deer.


Last edited by poorcountrypreacher; 10/23/12 09:56 PM.

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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #431674
10/24/12 10:13 AM
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I thought that Auburn put out some mutated hybrid deer back in the 80's here is West Alabama near the Sipsey Valley area. They are supposed to grow twice as fast as your average deer and have a larger body than the pure whitetail. They have characteristics of Red deer, Fallow and whitetail. Anyone seen one around the Pickens/Tuscaloosa area?


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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #431678
10/24/12 10:21 AM
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A buddy of mine killed a fallow buck in Geiger about 5 years ago. A high fence just across the Mississippi line was damaged in the last hurricane.

Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #431726
10/24/12 11:45 AM
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Sweet Nice Buck!!


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Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #431828
10/24/12 03:02 PM
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Guntersville, AL
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Fallow and whitetail canot cross. The whitetail buck may try it, but the sperm will not take.

Fallow are an old world deer, their genetic makeup is very different. Muleys and whitetail are new world deer, and their genetics are very close. Hope this helps

Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: Neutral88] #431894
10/24/12 04:24 PM
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Interesting...I have not heard that yet, thanks for the info

Re: FALLOW DEER killed with bow in Greensboro, AL (wild-no high fence) [Re: CWolbach] #432322
10/25/12 06:36 AM
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antlers look more like sika than fallow

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