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Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer #4115637
04/11/24 02:50 PM
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I thought this would have been noted on here already, but in the news today:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-administration-gun-show-loophole-background-checks/

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115642
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Clearly unconstitutional on many levels. Its also just a rule written by this Gestapo administration, not a law passed by congress or the states so its easy to knock that crap down in the courts. Furthermore, it forces people to become a business owner and take on all the liabilities involved with owning a business which is against the law because you cannot force somebody to be business regardless of how often they buy or sell anything.


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Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115643
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If this does not get shut down by the courts then every American can make the case that they are failed grocery salespeople. I buy a damn lot of groceries and I can't seem to sell them before they go bad so I just end up eating my profits away.


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Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115656
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Well, it will be interesting to see what happens. The new rule is based on the 2022 Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, which itself expanded the definition of engaging in the business of firearms dealing, and that was a law passed by Congress.

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115668
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Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115672
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What is the definition of a unlicensed firearm dealer?



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: 2Dogs] #4115675
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
What is the definition of a unlicensed firearm dealer?


Its the same definition you find for somebody who is an unlicensed tire salesman.


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Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Skinny] #4115677
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
What is the definition of a unlicensed firearm dealer?


Its the same definition you find for somebody who is an unlicensed tire salesman.


So however it suits the Feds.



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Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115678
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yup. I'm an unlicensed archaeologist. Why? There are no archaeology licenses. There are permits which I have for all 50 states and a dozen or more countries, but there is no license. Egypt, Israel, China, and a few other places do require government issued licenses.


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Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: 2Dogs] #4115684
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
What is the definition of a unlicensed firearm dealer?


Well, if proven, I believe it would be "felon."

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115687
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Ok I read some of this last night best I can figure it will really only affect gun shows .

I don't understand the online buying thing that already covered by law . To me the new regs are already covered by law .

Unless something is hidden private sales are still ok.

Imo this is mostly ,,, look at me I'm doing something.

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115689
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Ok best I under understand if you buy and sale gun for a profit you're suppose to be a ffl. That's are ready law. Definition! !!!!!

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Frankie] #4115694
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Ok I read some of this last night best I can figure it will really only affect gun shows .

I don't understand the online buying thing that already covered by law . To me the new regs are already covered by law .

Unless something is hidden private sales are still ok.

Imo this is mostly ,,, look at me I'm doing something.

Yeah but every time they “do something “ we lose a little more freedom.


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Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Dixiepatriot] #4115698
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Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
Originally Posted by Frankie
Ok I read some of this last night best I can figure it will really only affect gun shows .

I don't understand the online buying thing that already covered by law . To me the new regs are already covered by law .

Unless something is hidden private sales are still ok.

Imo this is mostly ,,, look at me I'm doing something.

Yeah but every time they “do something “ we lose a little more freedom.



Oh I'm in no way saying it's ok . It just makes no sense to me . Seems like some things hidden in it .

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115701
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Become ungovernable.

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Frankie] #4115765
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Ok I read some of this last night best I can figure it will really only affect gun shows .

I don't understand the online buying thing that already covered by law . To me the new regs are already covered by law .

Unless something is hidden private sales are still ok.

Imo this is mostly ,,, look at me I'm doing something.

On the surface it seems okay because they did list some qualifiers. But like always it's gonna be how it's enforced. Of course I haven't read the 500 page EO. No telling what they may have slipped in there.


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Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: goodman_hunter] #4115775
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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
Originally Posted by Frankie
Ok I read some of this last night best I can figure it will really only affect gun shows .

I don't understand the online buying thing that already covered by law . To me the new regs are already covered by law .

Unless something is hidden private sales are still ok.

Imo this is mostly ,,, look at me I'm doing something.

On the surface it seems okay because they did list some qualifiers. But like always it's gonna be how it's enforced. Of course I haven't read the 500 page EO. No telling what they may have slipped in there.


Probably free guns for homos and transexuals…

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: GmeHunter] #4115812
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Originally Posted by GmeHunter
Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
Originally Posted by Frankie
Ok I read some of this last night best I can figure it will really only affect gun shows .

I don't understand the online buying thing that already covered by law . To me the new regs are already covered by law .

Unless something is hidden private sales are still ok.

Imo this is mostly ,,, look at me I'm doing something.

On the surface it seems okay because they did list some qualifiers. But like always it's gonna be how it's enforced. Of course I haven't read the 500 page EO. No telling what they may have slipped in there.


Probably free guns for homos and transexuals…




they have a high rate of suicide free guns might not be a good thing for them .

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115852
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Y'all don't worry, Kumala said she's for the 2nd Amendment.

Re: Expanded Definition of Gun Dealer [Re: Wahoo] #4115927
04/12/24 05:58 AM
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So, how does one do a background check?

Is it the same background check that “Academy, Bass Pro” does being serious here.

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