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For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd #4104797
03/21/24 08:30 PM
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This is always a fun topic…

5 acre field on a property with around 20 acres of plots. Bordered directly by 5 acres of heavy TSI and 11 acres of thinned pines, both of which have been burned in the last 3 years. Also bordered by a 2yr old, 2 acre clearcut that has been allowed to get thick and will be burned for the first time this year or next.

Shot over 20 does between us and the neighbors. Had pictures of at least 4 deer in field just after we left.

They’re keeping it mowed to the ground. Need some more habitat improvement and some more doe killing.

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Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104808
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Looks about right to me.......If the whole field looked like the inside of the cage (unused) then what would be the point?

Last edited by CNC; 03/21/24 08:40 PM.

We dont rent pigs
Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104815
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OKAY what cha going to do. Folks looking for a place to hunt every year…… invite them to kill a doe or just. …. as above what cha saying

Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104830
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More doe killing won't help. I have a somewhat similar situation. For 20 years there were an average of 14 does a year killed in the field. Didn't matter how many you killed there were just as many the next year. My cousin and I got tired of killing them, we still see equivalent numbers, not more not less, and the same ratio of bucks. There was only one deer killed this year, a 4.5 yo 9 point. Hopefully the bucks we let walk made it, there are 2 will be 4.5yo or better next year. Some decent younguns coming along also. We may invite some kids to come kill a doe or three this year just because.

Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104833
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Yes if you want more deer you have to kill all the does. This if the proof right here.

Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104843
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Sounds like you need more food

Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104858
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Thats why he shot more does


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Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104869
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If that picture was taken today, that’s a pitiful amount of growth inside the cage.


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Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: Okatuppa] #4104887
03/21/24 10:19 PM
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That’s about 4” of clover and everything else is taller than that…

This field has had nothing but chicken litter since I can remember and these ridge tops don’t exactly have the best soil


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Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: jwalker77] #4104908
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In all seriousness, most areas of Alabama don't "need" more does to be killed. Kill one if you want, but you're not doing the world some great service of charity by doing it.

Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104973
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Remember , you can have a lot of deer if you have food for them.



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Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4104992
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Wouldn’t take many deer to keep that foodplot mowed down.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4105020
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Some places have too many. Some don't. you can't cookie cut every situation. Looks like you did what you needed to do SE

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Originally Posted by BPI
Some places have too many. Some don't. you can't cookie cut every situation. Looks like you did what you needed to do SE


Wait, what! Some places have too many ?!



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Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4105085
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Is killing does the new Covid


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Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: 2Dogs] #4105099
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by BPI
Some places have too many. Some don't. you can't cookie cut every situation. Looks like you did what you needed to do SE


Wait, what! Some places have too many ?!


He hasn't had his one on one site visit and personal meeting with CNC yet. Harold will show him the light and get him corrected.

Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: abolt300] #4105108
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Originally Posted by abolt300


He hasn't had his one on one site visit and personal meeting with CNC yet. Harold will show him the light and get him corrected.


Just my opinion but the best thing you could do with a field like this is leave it alone and let it be a “constant” on the landscape year after year where bucks for miles around know there will be a high concentration of does at this spot come rut……There’s not a 5-10 acre foodplot full of does on every corner. Screw using it as a place to whack does…..You can do that over a corn pile in the camp yard or something…..A field like this should be good for whacking a stud or two every year


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Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4105155
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I planted a food plot for the deer. It didn't grow all that well. I shot as many as I could but they just kept eating it?

..... WTH is that?

When it is patchy dirt that's when it's "mowed to the ground". That's not it.


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Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: SEWoodsWhitetail] #4105193
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In my opinion. That is not mowed down. Looks normal to me. If the field looked like the inside of the cage OR the field was bare dirt and the inside of the cage was like it is now, that's when I would do some adjustments.

Re: For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd [Re: 2Dogs] #4105253
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Remember , you can have a lot of deer if you have food for them.

Yep. More food = more deer, unless you kill the deer factories.

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