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Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: abolt300] #4096015
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by JustHunt
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Originally Posted by Bulls eye
I know a lot of folks getting out of clubs because the cost isnt worth the hunting. Timber companies keep raising prices year after year. Leases the same way. I see a lot more leases out there for a lot longer time. I hope these greedy bastages have to drop the prices to a reasonable level. Timber companies can kiss my butt. I hate greedy folks.

Damn those people trying to make a profit!!! rolleyes


If they depend on hunting leases to make their profit then they run a pretty sorry business

They don’t depend on leases to make a profit and that’s exactly why I posted what I did about them just deciding to no longer deal with the hassle of leasing to hunters, if they feel they can’t get the price they want for dealing with it. Leases just add a little extra in profit on top of their real business which is buying and selling timber and land

I would guess that lease payments offset the cost of owning the land, taxes and maintenance. When the timber is sold is when the profits roll in.


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Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096021
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I know several guys in mgmt with the big timber companies. Goal was always to cover the annual property taxes and road and land maintenance expenses with the hunting lease revenues. It is a very minor profit center for them or at least it was years ago.

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096024
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Wish my private lease would keep the road up. It’s impassable

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096025
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Man I can remember the $10 permit for IP land back in the day here in Ms. some really great places to hunt!

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096030
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It gotten real expensive - corn jacked it up too. I hunted clubs most of my life - few good - but most of em you had adults acting like selfish 5 year olds - pathetic

I was fortunate - finally found small place to lease - been headache free - just me and the boy and he dont hunt hardly. I can manage and grow deer - been fun watching deer grow and shooting some - trap and improve property - enjoy doing it


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Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: abolt300] #4096031
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Originally Posted by abolt300
I know several guys in mgmt with the big timber companies. Goal was always to cover the annual property taxes and road and land maintenance expenses with the hunting lease revenues. It is a very minor profit center for them or at least it was years ago.



This is what the land manager told me also.


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Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: 3bailey3] #4096046
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Originally Posted by 3bailey3
Man I can remember the $10 permit for IP land back in the day here in Ms. some really great places to hunt!

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096067
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Somebody somewhere is going to pay the $$. It may be all doctors and lawyers, but checks will be written and the land will be hunted.


You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096090
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The price of deer leases in Alabama don’t hold a candle to what duck hunting leases cost down here!! And there’s no more ducks and geese down here. But every lease is full every year. People will pay!!


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096135
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Before the State bought up our lease we were paying $14K for 1250 acres. We were down to 7 members and I fronted a second membership for my GF just to keep it in the ballpark where another two would stick around. That’s with a camp facility with bunkhouse, hookups, skin shed, power and water. Folks would still balk at the price. Same people would now gladly pay more to not have to deal with the rules and regulations on that free -to -hunt public land.

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096141
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Pwyse


I guess it just depends on what they are looking for. Do they want a club to run to and hunt all year or do they want a 4 day hunt with a camp full of strangers. I’m sure some will go elsewhere. Not sure if most will.


The point I’m making is just what 3bailey3 said……His dues have went from $1100 to $1300…..now to $1500 which is about the most he is willing to pay……I suspect many clubs are going through this same thing……You reach a price point when 90% of your “customer base” isnt going to pay a higher price to hunt average Alabama land, so the clubs don’t have a whole lot of choice but to add more members and increase the hunter density…..As lease prices keep going up, so will hunter density.



Any chance you can show this on a graph? I’m a visual learner…


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Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096152
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Naw I want to see a pie chart.

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: BradB] #4096270
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Originally Posted by BradB
Naw I want to see a pie chart.


I love pie too

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096383
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If your paying $3000 or more annually for a lease I would think you would be better off going on an out of state hunt in kansas or ohio and have a better chance at a 130 plus buck.

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^^^
May be correct - thought about it. But i like planting fields and improving place a lot


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Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #4096408
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
If your paying $3000 or more annually for a lease I would think you would be better off going on an out of state hunt in kansas or ohio and have a better chance at a 130 plus buck.


Agreed go out of state spend the $$$ in a few days. Gas eats hotels. And still save money. Going to a club every weekend driving to and from eating gas snack's get pricey if you kept up with all spent from the time you leave the house. Hunt public if ya need to go when you get the notion.

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: Paint Rock 00] #4096416
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Originally Posted by Paint Rock 00
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
If your paying $3000 or more annually for a lease I would think you would be better off going on an out of state hunt in kansas or ohio and have a better chance at a 130 plus buck.


Agreed go out of state spend the $$$ in a few days. Gas eats hotels. And still save money. Going to a club every weekend driving to and from eating gas snack's get pricey if you kept up with all spent from the time you leave the house. Hunt public if ya need to go when you get the notion.


For a lot of people, myself included, it’s about more than just killing a deer. I truly enjoy working/being in the woods year ‘round. It’s the management of the land that I really enjoy about hunting.

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #4096419
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
If your paying $3000 or more annually for a lease I would think you would be better off going on an out of state hunt in kansas or ohio and have a better chance at a 130 plus buck.

This is what I decided to do a couple years ago. $3-5000 for a lease in Alabama with a small probability of a 125" deer, club maintenance and the cost of a camper, club drama, etc.

Or, spend $5000 and have a nice trip and an excellent opportunity for 140"+ deer.

Easy choice.


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Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096443
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You know you can just buy the antlers for a lot less. Have a taxidermied head shipped right to for front door if all you want out of the experience of hunting is a set of antlers “x” big or larger.

Re: Hunting Club Dues & Rising Lease Prices [Re: CNC] #4096444
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Don't worry. Biden claims it isn't inflation but it is corporate greed that is making everything so expensive. He has a created a task force to handle it and I'm sure it will help.

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