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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: BhamFred] #4095393
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
if you own the property you should not have to pay shucks to the state to hunt on it.


Since my property taxes are more than some folks make, I agree !

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: BhamFred] #4095403
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
if you own the property you should not have to pay shucks to the state to hunt on it.


Also, If you’re concerned about over harvesting get rid of baiting.

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095408
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I don’t really even hunt deer anymore, mainly shoot yotes and bobcats and still have to pay like $400 for hunting license stuff.

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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: BhamFred] #4095414
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
no license on land you own. Over 26 years I wrote only a small number of folks for no license, I "think" most folks do actually buy a license to hunt. Fishing is another matter....


That’s only if you are an Alabama resident correct? Me being a FL resident, and owning property in Al I still have to purchase a license to hunt my land in Al?

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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: auburn17] #4095524
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Originally Posted by TDog93
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Thought - if you own the land - no license and that dont matter if you from
Jupiter - but i can find out if you want me to

Originally Posted by auburn17
Originally Posted by BhamFred
no license on land you own. Over 26 years I wrote only a small number of folks for no license, I "think" most folks do actually buy a license to hunt. Fishing is another matter....


That’s only if you are an Alabama resident correct? Me being a FL resident, and owning property in Al I still have to purchase a license to hunt my land in Al?

Yes if you own land in AL but live in FL your still required to buy an out of state license..

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095579
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I’m from out of state FL and maybe get up once or twice a year for a total of 2 weeks or so to hunt my club because of the distance. We have several South and Central Florida members and we all get along with our AL member brothers who are like extended family. We all kill deer and all get along. As far as killing too many deer our 2 problem children are local AL with more than a dozen cameras out that feel they have to kill their limit of deer like it’s a killing competition. Even our AL members are not happy with them. Most of the FL folks killed 1 or 2 does and 2 of us were fortunate enough to kill 1 nice buck each. Some killed nothing. We’re not up enough to hurt our club’s deer population. Thankfully our AL members are not like CNC. They know we drive long distance, have limited time, pay a lot of money on licenses and lease costs and want us to take some meat back. I pay a lot of money to kill anywhere from 0-3 deer a year in AL and spend a lot of money in local stores and restaurants and at the processor. We help your local businesses but I certainly wouldn’t spend $1400 for a nonresident license to hunt AL or buy a license if restricted to a certain number of deer because I’m nonresident. That’s stupid and bs. Stop blaming out of state for your lower deer numbers and look at your locals who hunt every day or week. Out of state hunters aren’t going to have the time to kill enough deer to hurt your numbers but they will help your local economy.

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: mw2015] #4095601
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Originally Posted by mw2015
I’m from out of state FL and maybe get up once or twice a year for a total of 2 weeks or so to hunt my club because of the distance. We have several South and Central Florida members and we all get along with our AL member brothers who are like extended family. We all kill deer and all get along. As far as killing too many deer our 2 problem children are local AL with more than a dozen cameras out that feel they have to kill their limit of deer like it’s a killing competition. Even our AL members are not happy with them. Most of the FL folks killed 1 or 2 does and 2 of us were fortunate enough to kill 1 nice buck each. Some killed nothing. We’re not up enough to hurt our club’s deer population. Thankfully our AL members are not like CNC. They know we drive long distance, have limited time, pay a lot of money on licenses and lease costs and want us to take some meat back. I pay a lot of money to kill anywhere from 0-3 deer a year in AL and spend a lot of money in local stores and restaurants and at the processor. We help your local businesses but I certainly wouldn’t spend $1400 for a nonresident license to hunt AL or buy a license if restricted to a certain number of deer because I’m nonresident. That’s stupid and bs. Stop blaming out of state for your lower deer numbers and look at your locals who hunt every day or week. Out of state hunters aren’t going to have the time to kill enough deer to hurt your numbers but they will help your local economy.


Every situation is different, but I definitely don’t think out of state hunters are a problem in Alabama. I agree with you.

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095639
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Poachers and night hunting scumbags probably kill a many deer as get reported on Game Check.

Spending money and effort to severely punish outlaw hunters will have a much more positive effect on our deer hunting. Raise fines for these Azzholes to make it hurt and use these funds instead of harassing law abiding hunters with more regulations.


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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095656
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Y'all can make it about emotion if you want to but at the end of the day its about math.......Add 40K hunters and it makes a difference in the total amount of deer that get killed......If too many bucks are getting killed then something has to give somewhere.....

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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: AU338MAG] #4095674
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Poachers and night hunting scumbags probably kill a many deer as get reported on Game Check.

Spending money and effort to severely punish outlaw hunters will have a much more positive effect on our deer hunting. Raise fines for these Azzholes to make it hurt and use these funds instead of harassing law abiding hunters with more regulations.


Bingo!!!

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095675
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Originally Posted by CNC
Y'all can make it about emotion if you want to but at the end of the day its about math.......Add 40K hunters and it makes a difference in the total amount of deer that get killed......If too many bucks are getting killed then something has to give somewhere.....

Take it up with resident hunters. That is your problem, not out of state hunters.


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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095677
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Originally Posted by CNC
Y'all can make it about emotion if you want to but at the end of the day its about math.......Add 40K hunters and it makes a difference in the total amount of deer that get killed......If too many bucks are getting killed then something has to give somewhere.....

We killed 3 deer on one of my places where you normally see 20 plus on all 3 fields. I'm gonna guess they're gonna breed their way out of that problem.

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095686
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Originally Posted by CNC
Y'all can make it about emotion if you want to but at the end of the day its about math.......Add 40K hunters and it makes a difference in the total amount of deer that get killed......If too many bucks are getting killed then something has to give somewhere.....


CNC, I find it funny you think out of state deer hunters are an issue in alabama. You dont even know how many of those out of state license owners actually deer hunted or how many they killed. If you are going to say you arent emotional and it is all numbers driven then contact DNR and get the game check numbers to at least have some data (as flawed as it may be).

I held an Alabama out of state license for 8 or 9 years (I think) In that time period I hunted deer 2 days. And in truth I was scouting for turkey and took a rifle with me because I could. There was about 5% chance I would have shot a deer even if I saw one. I did pass on a 115-120 inch buck because I didnt want to pack it out.

Alabama hunters put way more stress on midwestern deer than anyone puts on Alabama's deer. If you start limiting out of state hunters or charging them a fortune the crapstorm will hurt Alabama hunters way worse than out of state hunters are influencing your herd quality. u

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: Semo] #4095692
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Originally Posted by Semo
Originally Posted by CNC
Y'all can make it about emotion if you want to but at the end of the day its about math.......Add 40K hunters and it makes a difference in the total amount of deer that get killed......If too many bucks are getting killed then something has to give somewhere.....


CNC, I find it funny you think out of state deer hunters are an issue in alabama. You dont even know how many of those out of state license owners actually deer hunted or how many they killed. If you are going to say you arent emotional and it is all numbers driven then contact DNR and get the game check numbers to at least have some data (as flawed as it may be).


If you look at my original post all I asked was……”Shouldn’t there be a limit as to how many?”……Do you just let in however many want to hunt here as Atlanta and Florida continue to grow even if there stops being enough deer to go around? We can debate back and forth over whether or not the herd is decreasing……but for chits and giggles lets just assume for a minute that I’m right and its indeed decreasing…….Where are you going to make your cuts in the next 5 years??......Are you going to cut bag limits?

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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095719
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Semo
Originally Posted by CNC
Y'all can make it about emotion if you want to but at the end of the day its about math.......Add 40K hunters and it makes a difference in the total amount of deer that get killed......If too many bucks are getting killed then something has to give somewhere.....


CNC, I find it funny you think out of state deer hunters are an issue in alabama. You dont even know how many of those out of state license owners actually deer hunted or how many they killed. If you are going to say you arent emotional and it is all numbers driven then contact DNR and get the game check numbers to at least have some data (as flawed as it may be).


If you look at my original post all I asked was……”Shouldn’t there be a limit as to how many?”……Do you just let in however many want to hunt here as Atlanta and Florida continue to grow even if there stops being enough deer to go around? We can debate back and forth over whether or not the herd is decreasing……but for chits and giggles lets just assume for a minute that I’m right and its indeed decreasing…….Where are you going to make your cuts in the next 5 years??......Are you going to cut bag limits?

If the herd is decreasing it makes perfect sense to cut bag limits. You cut them across the board.


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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4095723
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All 40k are out of state hunters?


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


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Originally Posted by marshmud991
All 40k are out of state hunters?


Is there somewhere you can find this information year by year?


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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by marshmud991
All 40k are out of state hunters?


Is there somewhere you can find this information year by year?

I have no idea which is why I’m asking. Wasn’t sure if it was the total of new hunters or you were saying that many new NR hunters.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


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Originally Posted by marshmud991
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by marshmud991
All 40k are out of state hunters?


Is there somewhere you can find this information year by year?

I have no idea which is why I’m asking. Wasn’t sure if it was the total of new hunters or you were saying that many new NR hunters.


The hunter survey shows that amount of new deer hunters since 2018……I cant find a breakdown for just out of state. I would guess though that a large percentage of them came from out of state….Hard to imagine we just produced a bunch of new home grown hunters. Maybe there's some associated with the growth of areas like Huntsville and Auburn


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