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Out of state hunters #4094611
03/03/24 04:00 PM
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I know it’s a money maker for the state but shouldn’t there be a cap on the number of out of state hunters that are allowed to come in and hunt??.....I mean, if you and I were running a hunting club would you allow there to be an unlimited amount of members and it just be about on how many memberships we could sell??.....At some point don’t you have to step back and ask the question…..”How many memberships can we actually support instead of just how many can we sell?”

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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094613
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Well, I don’t think there is a massive amount of out of state hunters coming in. I maybe wrong. But who would come to Alabama to hunt besides Floridians? The delta is too close for MOST Louisiana folks, and the hunting is great in GA and Tennessee. Besides border people I guess. Any idea what percentage of hunters in Alabama are out of state?

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Acc’d to Google…approximately 44,000 non-resident hunting licenses per year are sold.


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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094618
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It's a money maker maker for me as well so I'm good.

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: Pwyse] #4094621
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Well, I don’t think there is a massive amount of out of state hunters coming in. I maybe wrong. But who would come to Alabama to hunt besides Floridians? The delta is too close for MOST Louisiana folks, and the hunting is great in GA and Tennessee. Besides border people I guess. Any idea what percentage of hunters in Alabama are out of state?


Lot of folks in Atlanta and Florida with growing populations....Long term how many of those people can Alabama hunting lands support?....Seems like there would come a point in time where you have to cap it.

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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094630
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I’d be a hypocrite if were against out of state hunters. These last few years, a majority of all my hunting has been out of state. Definitely a money maker for OTC states.

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094633
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Pwyse
Well, I don’t think there is a massive amount of out of state hunters coming in. I maybe wrong. But who would come to Alabama to hunt besides Floridians? The delta is too close for MOST Louisiana folks, and the hunting is great in GA and Tennessee. Besides border people I guess. Any idea what percentage of hunters in Alabama are out of state?


Lot of folks in Atlanta and Florida with growing populations....Long term how many of those people can Alabama hunting lands support?....Seems like there would come a point in time where you have to cap it.


It's not like Alabama is growing more land. Leases go up and more money wins out. Average lease around here is about 20 an acre. Dont want to pay it, no problem. Somebody will pay it within the hr! In other words your replacing 10 hunters with 10 hunters. It's probably what the state wants anyway. Look at the University of Alabama, they push out of state tuition. School is 75 percent out of state right now!

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: BCLC] #4094640
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Originally Posted by BCLC
Acc’d to Google…approximately 44,000 non-resident hunting licenses per year are sold.


Is that just deer? There were only 233k licenses sold for deer last year. That means that 20% of deer hunters are from out of state?

If that’s true I was totally wrong. I would have guessed way under 10%

So that means we only had about 190k Alabamians hunting deer last year.

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I’m sure many Floridans are tired of Alabamians coming to their beaches can clogging their streets with out of state traffic.


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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: cartervj] #4094655
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Originally Posted by cartervj
I’m sure many Floridans are tired of Alabamians coming to their beaches can clogging their streets with out of state traffic.


Yep

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094658
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So I should not be able to hunt my own property, or the surrounding land that I lease because I live in Louisiana? I already pay a ridiculous amount just on a license.

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094665
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I would be a hypocrite to say yes also because I hunt in Louisiana and MS, they don't have a limit on how many out of state hunters they allow to come in.....

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: Spec] #4094666
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Originally Posted by Spec
So I should not be able to hunt my own property, or the surrounding land that I lease because I live in Louisiana? I already pay a ridiculous amount just on a license.


I don’t think the resource is under enough stress to warrant that spec. I know a lot of states do a draw system for out of state deer licenses. But the resource is not as abundant as Alabama’s.

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094675
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I don’t think you put a limit on how many out of state licenses you sell. You boost the price up for an annual to about a grand and move on. It’s too cheap now for an annual out of state license.



Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094700
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Harold, you really need to put a cap on it and quit giving Montgomery ideas. Edamnnuff.


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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Harold, you really need to put a cap on it and quit giving Montgomery ideas. Edamnnuff.


You always say the nicest things.



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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Harold, you really need to put a cap on it and quit giving Montgomery ideas. Edamnnuff.


He wants to change everything but you bring up tracking rules and oh my!

Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CNC] #4094738
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Really can’t speak to out of state deer hunters but if I had to hunt public land for turkeys in Alabama, I’d be fighting mad to see a slew of out of state truck tags waiting at the gate every Saturday morning. The problem with those people is they are making a living hunting public land. They’ll be hunting everyday until they tag out and then move on to the next state. A working man can’t compete with that.

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Out of state hunters money has the same value as resident hunters. And there’s plenty of places for them and us to hunt. Don’t be ridiculous.


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Re: Out of state hunters [Re: CrappieMan] #4094794
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Originally Posted by CrappieMan
It's not like Alabama is growing more land. Leases go up and more money wins out. Average lease around here is about 20 an acre. Dont want to pay it, no problem. Somebody will pay it within the hr! In other words your replacing 10 hunters with 10 hunters. It's probably what the state wants anyway. Look at the University of Alabama, they push out of state tuition. School is 75 percent out of state right now!


I hear what your saying but I don’t think out of state hunters are replacing resident hunters at a rate of 1:1…….A high percentage are going to be “additive mortality” when it comes to harvest rates……Don’t get me wrong, I aint saying we shouldn’t have out of state hunters…. it just seems like there’s nothing really moderating how many we have……Look at it this way, we have a 3 buck limit that we are all supposed to adhere to as individual hunters but yet there’s no limit as to how many of those 3 buck quotas the state can sale to out of state residents. What if in the next 10 years they reduce the limit to 2 bucks but sale an additional 40K out of state license annually??....Would you be ok with that??? The reduction in the individual limit probably didn’t change anything from the deer herds perspective…….See how that math works…….Just saying, things change over time.

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