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Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4092280
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I read a article about it somewhere the other day where some dogs into. One died and the other was having kidney problems best I remember. Anyways I'm sure they'll have a hard time getting it passed because of things like that. I'm glad we don't have hogs around here at the moment anyways

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i dont look for it not to pass epa.

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Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4092399
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LSU has been working on this for 5-10 years. First it was gummies that could potentially kill a certain song bird i think. Never gonna pass, to much money being made on hogs. Ran test with it in TX and all the outfitters who profit from hog hunting bitched.

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Anybody that wants hogs on there place has no idea what they're asking for!!

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4092507
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I never had hogs on any place I hunted, I used to wish I had them. Man just think I could shoot hogs every time I went hunting, I would start eating them, hunting them, trapping them, how awesome this year around enjoyment would be! Now I have the damn things. I wouldn't wish that crap on my worst enemy. They need to ne completely eliminated from the entire South east, and anyone who says different don't have them!

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4092578
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What's the northernmost place in the state where I could go out and reliably do my part in eliminating the hog menace? There's no closed season, correct? Any place you can hunt them in the off season?
I don't hate them enough to take time out of deer season but I'd road trip if I felt like there was a good possibility of killing some.

Hunted Bankhead once and the only hogs I ran into were a couple of miles deep. Matt Brock et. al. did a solid job knocking em out of there.

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4092585
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The people that want them either only hunt public land or hunt land that doesn’t have them. I have them on my main tract and one club I’m in. My main place, I won’t allow any corn, but my neighbors have feeders all on my property lines, so they stay on me. I have people telling me all the time that they can solve my problem if I just write them permission. They think they are going to solve my problem
By recreationally shooting them. No they won’t. The USDA is trapping on me now, but they will knock them back only for a short time. A poison like this is the way to go. I hope I never see another pig or sign of a pig as long as I live.

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4092760
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Honest question. Do you all think having a corn pile now around every bend will make the hog problem worse or make no difference? I hunt a place as a guest in Barbour county that’s loaded with hogs and they have never used corn until this year. The 2 times I hunted it this year I saw less hog sign than previous years. But wounded warriors has hunted them hard last few years during the summer and have killed about 600 i think the last 3-4 years. This is about a 1,000 acre tract

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Originally Posted by woodduck
Honest question. Do you all think having a corn pile now around every bend will make the hog problem worse or make no difference? I hunt a place as a guest in Barbour county that’s loaded with hogs and they have never used corn until this year. The 2 times I hunted it this year I saw less hog sign than previous years. But wounded warriors has hunted them hard last few years during the summer and have killed about 600 i think the last 3-4 years. This is about a 1,000 acre tract


Sounds like to me the pressure pushed them out.

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Originally Posted by Pwyse
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Honest question. Do you all think having a corn pile now around every bend will make the hog problem worse or make no difference? I hunt a place as a guest in Barbour county that’s loaded with hogs and they have never used corn until this year. The 2 times I hunted it this year I saw less hog sign than previous years. But wounded warriors has hunted them hard last few years during the summer and have killed about 600 i think the last 3-4 years. This is about a 1,000 acre tract


Sounds like to me the pressure pushed them out.
yes my question was as far as statewide do you all think people putting corn out so much as causing the hog numbers to explode statewide? To me it’s a no brainer it makes the hog problem worse. Yes the pressure on this property I think has pushed them off property I usually don’t get down there to hunt until January and it’s been hunted hard for 2 months. Those damn pigs wise up quickly

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4093248
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It definitely hasn’t helped matters…….I used to hunt down near the sod farms on 82 in Barbour Co in the time range of 6-10 years ago…..We didn’t really have hogs on the place I hunted except for an occasional stray sighting at first….I actually occasionally hunted the same place as a guest for the 7-8 years prior to that and you never saw them back then…..Once all the corn started flowing though BOOM!!....they moved in to the property to live. They’ve pretty much filled in now from Eufaula to Montgomery…..

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Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4093264
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Everyone having corn out definitely makes them harder to trap that’s for sure

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4093314
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Clay trap targets say right on the box that they are poisonous to hogs why not put.some.of them out with some feed on them
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Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4093342
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I don't see how you put out enough poison to materially impact the hog population without devastating native populations as well.

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: RandanAL] #4093353
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Originally Posted by RandanAL
I don't see how you put out enough poison to materially impact the hog population without devastating native populations as well.



is killing more coyotes , coons , possums , stray dogs , ect a bad thing ? big problem is using it a way deer dont eat it . find some fish guts add sodium nitrite, dig a hole, there you go


sodium nitrite,is used to cure meat . buy it right off amazon

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Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: RandanAL] #4093388
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Originally Posted by RandanAL
I don't see how you put out enough poison to materially impact the hog population without devastating native populations as well.



Sodium Nitrite is fatal to hogs in small doses but it does not impact the native species.

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The bait offers a more effective control method with the bonus of being humane, Gentry said. Within three hours of consuming the bait, hogs become sleepy and die.

Sodium nitrite is an ideal toxicant, he said, because it is deadly to swine and eventually breaks down into compounds that do not harm other species or pose environmental concerns.


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Originally Posted by BC
Originally Posted by RandanAL
I don't see how you put out enough poison to materially impact the hog population without devastating native populations as well.



Sodium Nitrite is fatal to hogs in small doses but it does not impact the native species.

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The bait offers a more effective control method with the bonus of being humane, Gentry said. Within three hours of consuming the bait, hogs become sleepy and die.

Sodium nitrite is an ideal toxicant, he said, because it is deadly to swine and eventually breaks down into compounds that do not harm other species or pose environmental concerns.




key words ,,,, after it breaks down .

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: Frankie] #4093543
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Originally Posted by Frankie

key words ,,,, after it breaks down .


LSU also did extensive research on delivery method to lessen the impact on the native species.

Here's a good article on how SN effects native species. It's even more lethal to raccoons than feral hogs.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wil...tions/Foster_2011_SodiumNitrateSwine.pdf


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Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: BC] #4093567
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Originally Posted by BC
Originally Posted by Frankie

key words ,,,, after it breaks down .


LSU also did extensive research on delivery method to lessen the impact on the native species.

Here's a good article on how SN effects native species. It's even more lethal to raccoons that feral hogs.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wil...tions/Foster_2011_SodiumNitrateSwine.pdf



Yeah it's been the delivery system that had to worked out . The Sodium nitrite it's self is bad

Re: Possible Hog answer? [Re: BC] #4093734
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Originally Posted by BC
Sodium Nitrite is fatal to hogs in small doses but it does not impact the native species.
Damn I didn't realize it was using sodium nitrite.... that is so deadly people use it to commit suicide. Humans are highly sensitive to it. 2.6 grams can be a lethal dose.

I can't possibly imagine we start broadcasting that into the woods. Anything that is going to attract hogs will attract other animals.

It's a broad spectrum vertebrate poison... not selective at all. Just looked at the study. Killed birds, coons, and basically anything else that decides to try it. shocked

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