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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
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02/16/24 10:06 AM
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WEMOhunter
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I got the Meosport 3x15x50 and put it on a 6.5 Grendel AR. Been thoroughly impressed so far and honestly like it better than my Optika 6. I got it around Christmas time from B&H photo for $399. Comes with decent Meopta rings as well. The illuminated red dot in the reticle is nice and my son loves it.
Its better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in war.
Some people feel the rain others just get wet.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: extreme heights hunter]
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02/16/24 01:14 PM
02/16/24 01:14 PM
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Posts: 9,051 USA
marshmud991
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Meopta or for a hair more, Zeiss
I’d steer clear of vortex I agree with the first statement but please explain about Vortex. I have a couple and may be looking at a couple others to upgrade scopes. I’m interested that there may be something I’m over looking. Thanks
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: marshmud991]
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02/16/24 02:32 PM
02/16/24 02:32 PM
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Posts: 9,166 B'ham
Goatkiller
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Meopta or for a hair more, Zeiss
I’d steer clear of vortex I agree with the first statement but please explain about Vortex. I have a couple and may be looking at a couple others to upgrade scopes. I’m interested that there may be something I’m over looking. Thanks They aren't great. Keep your box and receipt handy. It is well known they have great customer service for a reason....lot of people have had the pleasure of using it. Really just depends on what grade scope you buy from them I have a Razor that works fine but it wasn't made in the Philippines.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Goatkiller]
#4085193
02/16/24 03:46 PM
02/16/24 03:46 PM
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Posts: 13,714 Over yonder
extreme heights hunter
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Meopta or for a hair more, Zeiss
I’d steer clear of vortex I agree with the first statement but please explain about Vortex. I have a couple and may be looking at a couple others to upgrade scopes. I’m interested that there may be something I’m over looking. Thanks They aren't great. Keep your box and receipt handy. It is well known they have great customer service for a reason....lot of people have had the pleasure of using it. Really just depends on what grade scope you buy from them I have a Razor that works fine but it wasn't made in the Philippines. I’ve owned 3 of their products, 2 went back for repair within a month. The 3rd came on a used rifle I bought. I gave it to a kid. Also, I was t impressed with clarity on the scopes or binos
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
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02/16/24 10:10 PM
02/16/24 10:10 PM
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Posts: 9,051 USA
marshmud991
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Thankfully the 2 Diamondbacks I have, haven’t had any issues. They seem to be decent glass for the money.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
#4085521
02/16/24 10:43 PM
02/16/24 10:43 PM
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Posts: 1,557 Elmore County
treemydog
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I have several vortex scopes. Hunting and amateur LR shoooting. Never had a problem.
You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
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02/17/24 10:14 AM
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Barton
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Hands down, Meopta Optika5 3-15X44 Z-Plus reticle. Well under $500 when you can find one. They sell out as soon as they arrive.
Bart
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
#4085884
02/17/24 03:35 PM
02/17/24 03:35 PM
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Posts: 6,137 Clay-Trussville area
Big Al
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Posts: 6,137
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I have several Vortex scopes and have had zero problems.
"Said I never had much use for one; never said I didn't know how to use it". -Matthew Quigley in "Quigley Down Under"
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
#4086728
02/18/24 11:11 PM
02/18/24 11:11 PM
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Posts: 42,117 UR 6
top cat
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 42,117
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The words scope and budget don't belong in the same sentence
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
#4086987
02/19/24 03:50 PM
02/19/24 03:50 PM
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Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe
gundoc
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14 point
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I have bought from SWFA when they had the used scope site samplelist but its no longer. Is there another source for used/demo scopes? scopelist.com
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: bill]
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02/20/24 12:15 PM
02/20/24 12:15 PM
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Posts: 21,445 HSV AL
jmudler
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You can find a Trijicon Accupoint in that price range. I don't think you can do better under 1k. This. I own over 20 Vortex products from Diamondback to Razors. Trijicon optics are just flat out impressive, and usually 20-30% more Budget - it is pretty hard to beat a $250-300 (on sale) Vortex Viper. Midway was blowing out old Viper 3x9x40 1" tubes for $200 during Christmas time. Europtic has a sale right now on Vortex with an additional 15% off and free shipping over $250.
Last edited by jmudler; 02/20/24 05:22 PM.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: UncleHuck]
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02/20/24 03:45 PM
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Posts: 5,150 Satsuma, AL
Robert D.
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Watch the used Zeiss scopes. Some are chinese counterfeits.
I thought the Chinese Leupolds were the common problem.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Robert D.]
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02/20/24 05:52 PM
02/20/24 05:52 PM
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Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe
gundoc
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Watch the used Zeiss scopes. Some are chinese counterfeits.
I thought the Chinese Leupolds were the common problem. They are, or at least were. They've (Leupold) been working hard to get the fakes off the market. eBay is full of fake Zeiss scopes though. Or was last time I checked.
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Barton]
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02/20/24 09:56 PM
02/20/24 09:56 PM
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Posts: 507
BamaBoHunter
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Hands down, Meopta Optika5 3-15X44 Z-Plus reticle. Well under $500 when you can find one. They sell out as soon as they arrive. Pm to you
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Jason Carroll]
#4089715
02/24/24 05:59 PM
02/24/24 05:59 PM
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Posts: 2,462 Mississippi
riflenut
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10 point
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Posts: 2,462
Mississippi
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Diamondback hp fogged up on me this year on a buck. To hell with a vortex... Internally or externally?
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: BamaBoHunter]
#4090243
02/25/24 06:33 PM
02/25/24 06:33 PM
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Posts: 11,149 Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
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I'm going to chime in on the Vortex issue and share my opinion. May I say from the start, this is my OPINION... I am not a Vortex fan. I have owned one of their products and will never spend a dime of my money on another. The scope that I owned was not clear to my eyes, wasn't very good in low light, and to me, it was cheaply built. My biggest beef with Vortex as a company? They are a pretender, a "want to be", in the optics industry. They want to be in the league with other higher end scope manufacturers, but the cold, hard fact is they don't manufacture most their products. As far as I can tell, they claim to manufacture only one product in their entire line-up. That would be the Razor HD AMG scope, that is allegedly made in Wisconsin. This is a scope that retails in the $2,499.00 to $2,999.00 price range. Not real affordable for the average hunter. The rest of their products are made for them by other scope manufacturers, that slap the "Vortex" trade name on them. Razor - Made in Japan Viper - Made in the Philippines Diamondback - Made in the Philippines Viper Red Dot Series - Made in China Diamondback Tactical - Made in China Strike Eagle - Made in China Crossfire - Made in China You guys wonder why so many problems occur with many of their scope models? Just look where many of them are being built. This is a company that has built their reputation on their warranty. It's a good thing they have the warranty policy that they have. Sooner or later their junk will fail. Yep, in my opinion, they are the little brother in the optics industry. Kinda like Aubarn is to Bama... They aren't worthy enough to carry the jock straps of Luepold, Meopta, Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, and many others. All of which, are companies that build their OWN products, in their own manufacturing facilities. Rail on me if you want, this is truth about their manufacturing, and I already stated the rest was my opinion.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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02/25/24 08:24 PM
02/25/24 08:24 PM
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Posts: 18,055 North AL
AU338MAG
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I'm going to chime in on the Vortex issue and share my opinion. May I say from the start, this is my OPINION... I am not a Vortex fan. I have owned one of their products and will never spend a dime of my money on another. The scope that I owned was not clear to my eyes, wasn't very good in low light, and to me, it was cheaply built. My biggest beef with Vortex as a company? They are a pretender, a "want to be", in the optics industry. They want to be in the league with other higher end scope manufacturers, but the cold, hard fact is they don't manufacture most their products. As far as I can tell, they claim to manufacture only one product in their entire line-up. That would be the Razor HD AMG scope, that is allegedly made in Wisconsin. This is a scope that retails in the $2,499.00 to $2,999.00 price range. Not real affordable for the average hunter. The rest of their products are made for them by other scope manufacturers, that slap the "Vortex" trade name on them. Razor - Made in Japan Viper - Made in the Philippines Diamondback - Made in the Philippines Viper Red Dot Series - Made in China Diamondback Tactical - Made in China Strike Eagle - Made in China Crossfire - Made in China You guys wonder why so many problems occur with many of their scope models? Just look where many of them are being built. This is a company that has built their reputation on their warranty. It's a good thing they have the warranty policy that they have. Sooner or later their junk will fail. Yep, in my opinion, they are the little brother in the optics industry. Kinda like Aubarn is to Bama... They aren't worthy enough to carry the jock straps of Luepold, Meopta, Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, and many others. All of which, are companies that build their OWN products, in their own manufacturing facilities. Rail on me if you want, this is truth about their manufacturing, and I already stated the rest was my opinion. Great post Cuz. One question I have NEVER asked when buying optics is "what is the warranty?'" The best warranty is one you never need to use.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: AU338MAG]
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02/25/24 08:31 PM
02/25/24 08:31 PM
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Posts: 11,149 Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
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The best warranty is one you never need to use. Amen, brother! This man is right.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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02/26/24 10:49 AM
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Posts: 21,445 HSV AL
jmudler
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As far as I can tell, they claim to manufacture only one product in their entire line-up. That would be the Razor HD AMG scope, that is allegedly made in Wisconsin. This is a scope that retails in the $2,499.00 to $2,999.00 price range. Not real affordable for the average hunter.
The rest of their products are made for them by other scope manufacturers, that slap the "Vortex" trade name on them.
Razor - Made in Japan Viper - Made in the Philippines Diamondback - Made in the Philippines Viper Red Dot Series - Made in China Diamondback Tactical - Made in China Strike Eagle - Made in China Crossfire - Made in China
The XM157 is made in the US. Although it is $10k each.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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02/26/24 11:59 AM
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UncleHuck
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I'm going to chime in on the Vortex issue and share my opinion. May I say from the start, this is my OPINION... They aren't worthy enough to carry the jock straps of Luepold, Meopta, Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, and many others. All of which, are companies that build their OWN products, in their own manufacturing facilities. Rail on me if you want, this is truth about their manufacturing, and I already stated the rest was my opinion. Zeiss doesn't make all their own stuff either. They have farmed out manufacture of several of their lower end scopes, but I believe all their high end stuff is made by them.
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Re: Best Budget Scope
[Re: UncleHuck]
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02/26/24 01:10 PM
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Posts: 13,748 Hoover
burbank
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I'm going to chime in on the Vortex issue and share my opinion. May I say from the start, this is my OPINION... They aren't worthy enough to carry the jock straps of Luepold, Meopta, Zeiss, Swarovski, S&B, and many others. All of which, are companies that build their OWN products, in their own manufacturing facilities. Rail on me if you want, this is truth about their manufacturing, and I already stated the rest was my opinion. Zeiss doesn't make all their own stuff either. They have farmed out manufacture of several of their lower end scopes, but I believe all their high end stuff is made by them. Yep. Some Zeiss models are made by LOW in Japan. Trijicon and NF as well as many others use LOW. I have a friend with a high end razor (3k) and he has had to send it back twice. He is in the process of getting his money back.
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