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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
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01/31/24 04:22 PM
01/31/24 04:22 PM
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Posts: 15,862 Elmore County
Frankie
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Hunting ,,, full choke had always worked best for me . But I never used 2 3/4
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4074461
01/31/24 04:45 PM
01/31/24 04:45 PM
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stoolshooter
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How far can you kill a deer with 12ga OO Buck? 50 yards? I dont shoot deer with buckshot. But with a real good pattern, I would make 40 yds. my limit
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: stoolshooter]
#4074478
01/31/24 05:05 PM
01/31/24 05:05 PM
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Posts: 232 Birmingham,Al
Matt_S
OP
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I have more money in buckshot chokes than in 2 shotguns. I have found that you can not beat the Kicks buckicker. Even with that I have experimented with various loads and have found a real good load for my 20" barrel that I carry on the Gator. My other guns seem to pattern buck shot better but I need the shorter barrel to swing into action faster from the floor mounted gun rack. I am loading 1 1/2 size swaged buckshot that I powder coat. I use 2 3/4' Fio for those loads with MG42 wads. I stack 12 of those 31 cal. pellets for a perfect stack. I have tried loads with more pellets but its not how many pellets in the hull. Its how many on target. My pattern board dont lie. I use them around the farm for bobcat, coons, coyotes etc. If I had not been so hard headed thinking that buckshot needed a more open choke, I would have saved a lot of time and money. My pattern board is at 45 yds and all are in 30" with 6-8 being in a 8" pie plate Buy a few Kicks Buckicker’s for a few of my shotguns and pattern them? Then I’m good to go?
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4074594
01/31/24 07:35 PM
01/31/24 07:35 PM
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Posts: 12,710 behind my Dillon
dave260rem!
Skinny’s Ex
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Skinny’s Ex
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Hunting you'll want a full choke defense open choke or improved cylinder at tightest. Course you just launched 9 pellets@1300 feet towards the problem which tends to solve that problem.
Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4074723
01/31/24 10:25 PM
01/31/24 10:25 PM
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Posts: 15,862 Elmore County
Frankie
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What would you gain out of 3 1/2in vs 2 3/4, 12ga 00 Buck? hurt shoulder . lol if you cant handle heavy recoil leave the 3 1/2 alone
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: BigEd]
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01/31/24 10:29 PM
01/31/24 10:29 PM
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Posts: 12,929 In a Van, down by the River
quailman
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Killed plenty with a Rem 1100 12g modified 2 3/4 0buck. All 12 pellets were in a paper plate at 50yds, that pattern is why I used the 0buck. I have the same gun and for whatever reason it likes #1 buck.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: quailman]
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01/31/24 10:49 PM
01/31/24 10:49 PM
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Posts: 15,862 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Killed plenty with a Rem 1100 12g modified 2 3/4 0buck. All 12 pellets were in a paper plate at 50yds, that pattern is why I used the 0buck. I have the same gun and for whatever reason it likes #1 buck. way back when the 1100s with the 30" fixed full chock barrels liked ever thing . best buckshot guns there ever was imo .
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
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02/01/24 07:48 AM
02/01/24 07:48 AM
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BPI
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What would you gain out of 3 1/2in vs 2 3/4, 12ga 00 Buck? A broken collar bone.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4074853
02/01/24 08:38 AM
02/01/24 08:38 AM
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Posts: 36,185 alabama
BhamFred
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Freak of Nature
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alabama
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Back in the 60s and early 70s I killed a 18 wheeler load of deer with buckshot. Lost a hit deer once in a while. Then one fateful weekend(1972ish) in Wilcox Co I hit and lost TWO damn big bucks. Both within 40 yards, both sparse blood trails. Haven't shot at a deer with buckshot since then. The stuff is just too imprecise for my tastes.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: hawndog]
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02/01/24 10:59 AM
02/01/24 10:59 AM
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Frankie
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I shoot the 3" 15 pellet 00 Winchester Super X with a full choke. Killed a pile of deer with that combo. I feel comfortable shooting to about 60 yards. I have patterned it at 80 and can still consistently get hits on target but that is pushing it a bit, mainly because of velocity at that point. I have shot it though xxxfull comp-n-choke. It did great. Could put all fifteen in a 6"circle at 40, but it ruined the choke. Never fooled around with the 2 3/4 stuff too much. i used the copper coated ones . might just be me but they seemed to kick a little less than the Federals. i used the 000 in my BPS 10ga
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4074992
02/01/24 11:10 AM
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Goatkiller
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Don't deer hunt with buckshot... BUT I shoot a lot of pigs with it under 50yds they are toast. Buck Kicker for 00 but I prefer #1 and #4 for the woods and use a Carlson Coyote and think it's better with #1 and #4 than the Buck Kicker. #1 will kill the crap outa something I don't know why it isn't more popular.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Goatkiller]
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02/01/24 11:52 AM
02/01/24 11:52 AM
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hawndog
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Don't deer hunt with buckshot... BUT I shoot a lot of pigs with it under 50yds they are toast. Buck Kicker for 00 but I prefer #1 and #4 for the woods and use a Carlson Coyote and think it's better with #1 and #4 than the Buck Kicker. #1 will kill the crap outa something I don't know why it isn't more popular.
For me, I don't shoot the #1 because it gives wider patterns. And for the loss of energy at long range. Shot density will be about the same as 00 just wider.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
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02/01/24 08:48 PM
02/01/24 08:48 PM
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Broadhead26
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What would you gain out of 3 1/2in vs 2 3/4, 12ga 00 Buck? From what I remember, 2 3/4 = 9 pellets 3” = 12 pellets 3 1/2” = 18 pellets I cringe when I think about shooting 3.5” out of a pump. It’s tolerable in my SBE2 though.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4075371
02/01/24 09:26 PM
02/01/24 09:26 PM
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Posts: 362 The Flatwoods
Buckshot77
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What would you gain out of 3 1/2in vs 2 3/4, 12ga 00 Buck? A 3.5 throws 18 00 pellets a little slower than a 2 3/4 throws 9 or 12 pellets. If you're shooting the 9 pellet load that this thread was started talking about. It's like shooting twice every time you pull the trigger on a 3.5. Speed doesn't kill. Pattern density does. I've killed deer @ 70 yards with a 1050 fps load before I knew it shot that slow. A lot of deer have been killed with a 2 3/4 and also a 3" gun. I spent a lot of time and $ to find a gun and load I'm happy with because I use it for 90% of my deer hunting. I've went back to the drawing board over a 14" 40 yard pattern or a 12" pattern that had holes in it. Whatever 9 or 12 pellets will do, 18 will do better. Under 40 yards on a wide open shot, it probably wouldn't matter. For a pattern that will still kill at 50, or 60 yards, or through light brush, I want all the help I can get.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Broadhead26]
#4075380
02/01/24 09:33 PM
02/01/24 09:33 PM
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Buckshot77
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What would you gain out of 3 1/2in vs 2 3/4, 12ga 00 Buck? From what I remember, 2 3/4 = 9 pellets 3” = 12 pellets 3 1/2” = 18 pellets I cringe when I think about shooting 3.5” out of a pump. It’s tolerable in my SBE2 though. I don't think it's bad through mine either (SBE2). I shot a 3.5" 870 a few times and it might have taken a few years off my life. Kicked me right in the face.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Buckshot77]
#4075389
02/01/24 09:49 PM
02/01/24 09:49 PM
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Posts: 15,862 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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What would you gain out of 3 1/2in vs 2 3/4, 12ga 00 Buck? From what I remember, 2 3/4 = 9 pellets 3” = 12 pellets 3 1/2” = 18 pellets I cringe when I think about shooting 3.5” out of a pump. It’s tolerable in my SBE2 though. I don't think it's bad through mine either (SBE2). I shot a 3.5" 870 a few times and it might have taken a few years off my life. Kicked me right in the face. yeah i shot one a few times , ill stay with my 10ga pump . pushing that much lead out of a smaller hole makes a lot of difference .
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4075614
02/02/24 11:35 AM
02/02/24 11:35 AM
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Posts: 11,357 Kennedy, al
globe
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Booner
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We bought 3 new mossberg 3.5” pumps when they first came out in the late 80’s. Killed a lot of deer with 3.5” #1 buck, several out to 70 yards walking clearcuts. Yeah they kick just a little though. We’ve always gotten better patterns with #1 buck and mod chokes. Y’all got me wanting to try that choke though. I plan on shooting some pigs with buckshot this summer.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: globe]
#4076025
02/02/24 08:46 PM
02/02/24 08:46 PM
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Buckshot77
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We bought 3 new mossberg 3.5” pumps when they first came out in the late 80’s. Killed a lot of deer with 3.5” #1 buck, several out to 70 yards walking clearcuts. Yeah they kick just a little though. We’ve always gotten better patterns with #1 buck and mod chokes. Y’all got me wanting to try that choke though. I plan on shooting some pigs with buckshot this summer. If you don't like it, they will swap it out for 30 days till you get the patterns you want. They make it in a Lt full, a full and an extra full.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4082514
02/12/24 01:59 PM
02/12/24 01:59 PM
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Posts: 10,344 coffee county
goodman_hunter
Booner
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Booner
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As far as 3.5 goes. I don't shoot it anymore. For one its expensive. 2 my accuracy isn't as good, 3 follow up shots are either slower and/or less accurate.4 3.5 hulls mess up if they're left in the tube too long. The hull will deform.
I'd rather double tap 2.75 than all 18 pellets in one shot.
2.75 shells can be bought on sale pretty cheap. That and the reduced recoil allows me to shoot more before / after season.
For without victory, there is no survival
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Frankie]
#4092954
02/29/24 12:30 PM
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What would you gain out of 3 1/2in vs 2 3/4, 12ga 00 Buck? Loose fillings! hurt shoulder . lol if you cant handle heavy recoil leave the 3 1/2 alone I have an 870 Express with the standard mod chole tube that patterns 000 buck into pie plate sized patterns at 40 yds and puts 6 of them in there at 50. 000 will break bones
Remember: It aint what you shoot...it's how you shoot it.
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Re: Choke for Buckshot?
[Re: Matt_S]
#4093426
03/01/24 08:34 AM
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I was always a #1 buckshot fan, always had/borrowed uncles or dad's guns, full choke 30" seemed what most everybody ran back in the day. That set up sure piled up a mess of them.
“If you do not conquer self, you will be conquered by self.” Napoleon Hill The most difficult thing to understand during conversation is silence. Thoreau
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