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Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: Thread Killer] #4082955
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Just saw Lipseys is doing a run of 77/22 Africans in 22 Hornet. Would love to have one

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I'm about to buy a new rifle for my wife. Would you go with the Tikka Lite or the new Ruger American, and why?


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Originally Posted by BC
I'm about to buy a new rifle for my wife. Would you go with the Tikka Lite or the new Ruger American, and why?
I have only founded a Gen 2. Huge Ruger fan. RAG2 is a step up from RAG1. Plus in cases, threaded and shorter barrel (if that is what you want). Ruger service is outstanding. However, the difference to me personally, put a stock and a cheap bolt knob on a tikka and you have a super smooth rifle with an excellent trigger and action. After market for Tikka is bigger too.




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Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: jmudler] #4083135
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Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by BC
I'm about to buy a new rifle for my wife. Would you go with the Tikka Lite or the new Ruger American, and why?
I have only founded a Gen 2. Huge Ruger fan. RAG2 is a step up from RAG1. Plus in cases, threaded and shorter barrel (if that is what you want). However, the difference to me personally, put a stock and a cheap bolt knob on a tikka and you have a super smooth rifle with an excellent trigger and action. After market for Tikka is bigger too.




I'm heavily leaning on the Tikka. My only problem is the Tikka Lite isn't threaded and she said she eventually wants a supressor. If I go Tikka I will eventually have to have it threaded.


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Look at a Bergara B14 Stoke. 20" #4.5 taper threaded barrel, with slightly shorter LOP. https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/b14/stoke/

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Originally Posted by BC
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by BC
I'm about to buy a new rifle for my wife. Would you go with the Tikka Lite or the new Ruger American, and why?
I have only founded a Gen 2. Huge Ruger fan. RAG2 is a step up from RAG1. Plus in cases, threaded and shorter barrel (if that is what you want). However, the difference to me personally, put a stock and a cheap bolt knob on a tikka and you have a super smooth rifle with an excellent trigger and action. After market for Tikka is bigger too.




I'm heavily leaning on the Tikka. My only problem is the Tikka Lite isn't threaded and she said she eventually wants a supressor. If I go Tikka I will eventually have to have it threaded.



Estimate $150 for that. Pull the barrel from stock and send to Gundoc.


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Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: odocoileus] #4083571
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Originally Posted by odocoileus
Look at a Bergara B14 Stoke. 20" #4.5 taper threaded barrel, with slightly shorter LOP. https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/b14/stoke/


Looked into it. I like the looks of that little rifle!


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The stoke looks pretty sweet, i haven't priced them locally, but not sure its worth the extra few hundred bucks when buying for the adjust LOP for a kid.

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I bought a B14 Ridge a few weeks ago. The bergara action is better than a Gen 1 ruger I had, with a far superior trigger. My bergara is in 22-250 with a #5 contour 22" barrel. The rifle weighed 7.7lbs bare. Rigged out with scope and a Banish 30 can, it's not light. The stoke literally was announced a few days after I bought the ridge, or I probably would have gone for the Stoke as it's 1.5lbs lighter and more compact. MSRP is the same between the two, $929. Local gun score hooked me up for $850 plus tax.

Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: Thread Killer] #4083925
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The Bergara/700 is a 2-lug action. Ruger is a 3-lug. Polished out right, little difference between the two in true feel, save for shorter bolt throw on the Ruger, which can give more clearance.

Ruger emailed me to say they ARE going to make a Gen 2 RANCH in 308, with a 16” bbl….just not showing on their website yet.

The Ruger is not for aesthetics, purity of lines, or refined rifle snobbery. It’s for practical applications in function packages with the necessary modifications as it comes.

Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: ALMODUX] #4084156
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Originally Posted by ALMODUX

The Ruger is not for aesthetics, purity of lines, or refined rifle snobbery. It’s for practical applications in function packages with the necessary modifications as it comes.


I agree...My go to hunting rifle is a Gen 1 in 30-06. I just wish they'd do something about that awful trigger.
Tikka and Bergara both have shown a good trigger doesn't have to have that dang safety blade in the middle of it


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Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: Thread Killer] #4085138
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Got my hands on one of these at a LGS and man they are super nice, much nicer than the gen 1 which I have probably 4-5 of. They also had a couple of the ranch gen 2. I'm not going to rush out and replace my gen 1's, but I do plan on picking up a 6mm arc when they come out.

Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: Thread Killer] #4087210
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Evidently they’ve released the other calipers. I was in Mark’s today and saw several. They now have one less .308.

Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: hallb] #4087247
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Originally Posted by hallb
Got my hands on one of these at a LGS and man they are super nice, much nicer than the gen 1 which I have probably 4-5 of. They also had a couple of the ranch gen 2. I'm not going to rush out and replace my gen 1's, but I do plan on picking up a 6mm arc when they come out.



I've got the howa mini in 6 arc and it's probably my most accurate rifle with factory ammo.

Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: Turkey] #4087255
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Originally Posted by Turkey
Evidently they’ve released the other calipers. I was in Mark’s today and saw several. They now have one less .308.


Give us a range report asap.

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I’m starting to see them more and more as soon as I run into a 7mm08 I’ll have one too. I’ve seen them from 599-699 fyi. Vans in Cullman had a 7-08 Saturday but I had the kids and didn’t have time to wait around and do all the paperwork or is already have one.

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Originally Posted by BamaBoHunter
I’m starting to see them more and more as soon as I run into a 7mm08 I’ll have one too. I’ve seen them from 599-699 fyi. Vans in Cullman had a 7-08 Saturday but I had the kids and didn’t have time to wait around and do all the paperwork or is already have one.


There was a 7mm-08 on the rack next to the .308. I don't know what their stock level was. They had more of the .308's in the back.

Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: BC] #4087321
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Originally Posted by BC
Originally Posted by odocoileus
Look at a Bergara B14 Stoke. 20" #4.5 taper threaded barrel, with slightly shorter LOP. https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/b14/stoke/


Looked into it. I like the looks of that little rifle!

Seems like a nice rifle but 12-1/2" LOP and negative slope on the stock comb is a big no for me

At least they put a fairly decent twist (1:9) on the 22 250, but would've been even better at 1:8.

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Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: 3% outdoorsman] #4087379
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Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Ruger American rifles are economy junk.yes ive seen several that shoot amazing well Even with horrible cheap plastic stocks but let's face it they are economy crap.ruger is definitely not the company it once was at all.


So Ruger is crap for making a cheap and accurate gun?


Yea, I don’t follow the logic. The American shoots better than the Hawkeye at like half the cost.

I get that nice rifles are beautiful…but when I’m in the woods I want an accurate tool that won’t break my heart if I get a ding on it.

No you don't own a rifle that shoots as good as my 1998 Ruger mk77 I promise.i bet none of you do
Yes I know Americans shoot well I've seen it but or hit or miss but the one I bought my son had roughest most horrible barrel at break in.but oh no none of y'all would ever know anything about that cause youve never tried it.
I'll just say it's a horrible copper mine like a factory savage.
There's a lot you can learn breaking in barrels . basically who makes good ones and who doesn't
You find out who hand lapps and who doesn't
Go buy a Tikka if you want tupperware.every thing is perfect except the cheap stock but they always shoot and barrels clean out easy.no brainier or do y'all know how to judge a precision rifle vs a economy rust bucket?I doubt it
Ruger has made nothing worth having in rifles since the m77 and it was hit or miss but not mine.yall do not have a rifle that will shoot as well as my Ruger mk77 I bought in 1999 in 260 remington.i promise
Ruger is pitiful now except wheel guns ,10-22 and mk77 every single other thing they make is economy garbage . Absolute garbage
Rust buckets cause they can't even remove blueing salts enough to prevent rust.crap modern American made crap
I would not own anything Ruger makes except what I've mentioned above with vaccaro's etc. and maybe 1911's.



This is my Remington 700 BDL in 270 with factory ammo. With me shooting it, not in a lead sled, just forend on an Allen bag.

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