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Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: jmudler] #4077653
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Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Ruger American rifles are economy junk.yes ive seen several that shoot amazing well Even with horrible cheap plastic stocks but let's face it they are economy crap.ruger is definitely not the company it once was at all.


So Ruger is crap for making a cheap and accurate gun?


Yea, I don’t follow the logic. The American shoots better than the Hawkeye at like half the cost.

I get that nice rifles are beautiful…but when I’m in the woods I want an accurate tool that won’t break my heart if I get a ding on it.

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Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Ruger American rifles are economy junk.yes ive seen several that shoot amazing well Even with horrible cheap plastic stocks but let's face it they are economy crap.ruger is definitely not the company it once was at all.


So Ruger is crap for making a cheap and accurate gun?


Yea, I don’t follow the logic. The American shoots better than the Hawkeye at like half the cost.

I get that nice rifles are beautiful…but when I’m in the woods I want an accurate tool that won’t break my heart if I get a ding on it.


On this day, 5 February 24, I FreeStateHunter agreed with Burbank on something

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Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Ruger American rifles are economy junk.yes ive seen several that shoot amazing well Even with horrible cheap plastic stocks but let's face it they are economy crap.ruger is definitely not the company it once was at all.


So Ruger is crap for making a cheap and accurate gun?


Yea, I don’t follow the logic. The American shoots better than the Hawkeye at like half the cost.

I get that nice rifles are beautiful…but when I’m in the woods I want an accurate tool that won’t break my heart if I get a ding on it.

Precisely why I hunt with an American in 30-06


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Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Ruger American rifles are economy junk.yes ive seen several that shoot amazing well Even with horrible cheap plastic stocks but let's face it they are economy crap.ruger is definitely not the company it once was at all.


So Ruger is crap for making a cheap and accurate gun?


Yea, I don’t follow the logic. The American shoots better than the Hawkeye at like half the cost.

I get that nice rifles are beautiful…but when I’m in the woods I want an accurate tool that won’t break my heart if I get a ding on it.

No you don't own a rifle that shoots as good as my 1998 Ruger mk77 I promise.i bet none of you do
Yes I know Americans shoot well I've seen it but or hit or miss but the one I bought my son had roughest most horrible barrel at break in.but oh no none of y'all would ever know anything about that cause youve never tried it.
I'll just say it's a horrible copper mine like a factory savage.
There's a lot you can learn breaking in barrels . basically who makes good ones and who doesn't
You find out who hand lapps and who doesn't
Go buy a Tikka if you want tupperware.every thing is perfect except the cheap stock but they always shoot and barrels clean out easy.no brainier or do y'all know how to judge a precision rifle vs a economy rust bucket?I doubt it
Ruger has made nothing worth having in rifles since the m77 and it was hit or miss but not mine.yall do not have a rifle that will shoot as well as my Ruger mk77 I bought in 1999 in 260 remington.i promise
Ruger is pitiful now except wheel guns ,10-22 and mk77 every single other thing they make is economy garbage . Absolute garbage
Rust buckets cause they can't even remove blueing salts enough to prevent rust.crap modern American made crap
I would not own anything Ruger makes except what I've mentioned above with vaccaro's etc. and maybe 1911's.

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If you want cheap buy bergara,new Steyr 2 , Howa 1500 or tikka.skip everything else
Glad to see Steyr decided to get back into selling rifles to u.s . New gen 2 pretty nice
Not sure what they was thinking for awhile.kinda shame they can't come out with something bad ass with decent stock in mid to upper range
But glad to see they are back in game with gen 2 rifles
Probably Browning x bolt but have no experience with those

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Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Ruger American rifles are economy junk.yes ive seen several that shoot amazing well Even with horrible cheap plastic stocks but let's face it they are economy crap.ruger is definitely not the company it once was at all.


So Ruger is crap for making a cheap and accurate gun?


Yea, I don’t follow the logic. The American shoots better than the Hawkeye at like half the cost.

I get that nice rifles are beautiful…but when I’m in the woods I want an accurate tool that won’t break my heart if I get a ding on it.

No you don't own a rifle that shoots as good as my 1998 Ruger mk77 I promise.i bet none of you do
Yes I know Americans shoot well I've seen it but or hit or miss but the one I bought my son had roughest most horrible barrel at break in.but oh no none of y'all would ever know anything about that cause youve never tried it.
I'll just say it's a horrible copper mine like a factory savage.
There's a lot you can learn breaking in barrels . basically who makes good ones and who doesn't
You find out who hand lapps and who doesn't
Go buy a Tikka if you want tupperware.every thing is perfect except the cheap stock but they always shoot and barrels clean out easy.no brainier or do y'all know how to judge a precision rifle vs a economy rust bucket?I doubt it
Ruger has made nothing worth having in rifles since the m77 and it was hit or miss but not mine.yall do not have a rifle that will shoot as well as my Ruger mk77 I bought in 1999 in 260 remington.i promise
Ruger is pitiful now except wheel guns ,10-22 and mk77 every single other thing they make is economy garbage . Absolute garbage
Rust buckets cause they can't even remove blueing salts enough to prevent rust.crap modern American made crap
I would not own anything Ruger makes except what I've mentioned above with vaccaro's etc. and maybe 1911's.

Man when I grow up I hope I can have superior equipment and be so much of a superior person such as you. I bet you really are the life of all the little kids birthday parties!! Especially when you tell them their cake is not as good as yours and how they’re so much dumber then you are.
Good thing you think you are something because I bet not many people do.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


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Just about ANY factory rifle these days is as accurate and serviceable for most use, as any rifle from years or decades past. You can argue opinions on which is ‘nicer’ or ‘better made’, etc. None of which has any real bearing on utility, accuracy, or killing animals and punching paper. There are a few things about shooting today, that negate considerations of decades past. I’m all about appreciating the past and craftsmanship, but I’m not going to argue the telegraph was better than an iPhone, either. wink

Re: Ruger American Gen 2 [Re: FreeStateHunter] #4078621
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Originally Posted by FreeStateHunter
On this day, 5 February 24, I FreeStateHunter agreed with Burbank on something
That was funny.


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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My ruger American will shoot one ragged hole at 100 yards with the little bit of stock work I did myself. It’s amazing how accurate that gun is with quality glass. Especially since I paid $200 out the door for it brand new years ago.

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Originally Posted by Hevishot13


My ruger American will shoot one ragged hole at 100 yards with the little bit of stock work I did myself. It’s amazing how accurate that gun is with quality glass. Especially since I paid $200 out the door for it brand new years ago.

Mine will too and I won it at a NWTF banquet on a 20 or 30 dollar raffle ticket. Only rifle I’ve ever owned that will touch holes shooting off a solid rest



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Originally Posted by Hevishot13


My ruger American will shoot one ragged hole at 100 yards with the little bit of stock work I did myself. It’s amazing how accurate that gun is with quality glass. Especially since I paid $200 out the door for it brand new years ago.


Larry's w/ Navy camo blue stock or the Walmart blow out sale? I have 4 RAs and paid under $200 ea for all of them. Right time to be in Huntsville.

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Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by Hevishot13


My ruger American will shoot one ragged hole at 100 yards with the little bit of stock work I did myself. It’s amazing how accurate that gun is with quality glass. Especially since I paid $200 out the door for it brand new years ago.


Larry's w/ Navy camo blue stock or the Walmart blow out sale? I have 4 RAs and paid under $200 ea for all of them. Right time to be in Huntsville.


Dicks clearance blowout demo rifle

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Anyone still looking for these POS rifles? smile

Marks had 4 out yesterday. One was a 7mm 08.

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Originally Posted by burbank
Anyone still looking for these POS rifles? smile

Marks had 4 out yesterday. One was a 7mm 08.


If 3% is now sober he might want to take a drive

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They aren’t offering it in 308? But ARE offering it in 6.5cm? WTH is wrong with Ruger’s logic?

I just don’t get offering a short barrel in everything BUT 308.

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A 308 RANCH.

They offered a Gen 1 Ranch in 308

A 20” 308 sucks for suppressed used.

You see lots of folks making ‘compromise’ gun models to attempt to straddle the market, instead of purpose models.

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The Standard Gen 2 is offered in .308 item number is 46902

They also have a Gen 1 in the Predator with an 18.5" barrel

Looks like a whole lot of different calibers are planned later this year too

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^^^^

Yep, I may just buy a Gen 1…..but was thinking there was a Gen 1 ranch 308 with a 16.5” barrel? If not, I’ll just find something that’s an easier button to get to 16” and AI.

I got zero use for any new rifles with over 18” barrels. I’ve got a few I’ll keep forever, but I’m running everything else suppressed AND short enough to not be a PITA with a suppressor, to heck with squeezing out FPS.

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Originally Posted by ALMODUX
^^^^

Yep, I may just buy a Gen 1…..but was thinking there was a Gen 1 ranch 308 with a 16.5” barrel? If not, I’ll just find something that’s an easier button to get to 16” and AI.

I got zero use for any new rifles with over 18” barrels. I’ve got a few I’ll keep forever, but I’m running everything else suppressed AND short enough to not be a PITA with a suppressor, to heck with squeezing out FPS.

I have been shooting a 16” .308 for 2 years and the bucks and bobcat it anchored to the ground didn’t notice any FPS difference at all.

It sure has been a joy to tote in the woods and in tight quarters, everything else feels like toting a telephone pole! beers


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Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Ruger American rifles are economy junk.yes ive seen several that shoot amazing well Even with horrible cheap plastic stocks but let's face it they are economy crap.ruger is definitely not the company it once was at all.


So Ruger is crap for making a cheap and accurate gun?


Yea, I don’t follow the logic. The American shoots better than the Hawkeye at like half the cost.

I get that nice rifles are beautiful…but when I’m in the woods I want an accurate tool that won’t break my heart if I get a ding on it.

No you don't own a rifle that shoots as good as my 1998 Ruger mk77 I promise.i bet none of you do
Yes I know Americans shoot well I've seen it but or hit or miss but the one I bought my son had roughest most horrible barrel at break in.but oh no none of y'all would ever know anything about that cause youve never tried it.
I'll just say it's a horrible copper mine like a factory savage.
There's a lot you can learn breaking in barrels . basically who makes good ones and who doesn't
You find out who hand lapps and who doesn't
Go buy a Tikka if you want tupperware.every thing is perfect except the cheap stock but they always shoot and barrels clean out easy.no brainier or do y'all know how to judge a precision rifle vs a economy rust bucket?I doubt it
Ruger has made nothing worth having in rifles since the m77 and it was hit or miss but not mine.yall do not have a rifle that will shoot as well as my Ruger mk77 I bought in 1999 in 260 remington.i promise
Ruger is pitiful now except wheel guns ,10-22 and mk77 every single other thing they make is economy garbage . Absolute garbage
Rust buckets cause they can't even remove blueing salts enough to prevent rust.crap modern American made crap
I would not own anything Ruger makes except what I've mentioned above with vaccaro's etc. and maybe 1911's.


My 1999 mk11 won't shoot under 2.5" groups for schit.... I'd imagine most of today's rifles shoot as good as yours, including my 2024 m77 22 hornet.

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