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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: FreeStateHunter] #4069108
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Originally Posted by FreeStateHunter
Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by FreeStateHunter
And this is the problem with Alabama. Folks can’t see past their nose when it comes to betterment of anything, it’s just about them. It’s always people screaming “I need to shoot 36 deer to feed my family!” and they’re on disability living on handed down land not doing a thing for society, broke as a joke but you can be sure their fridge is full of beer and they always have cigarettes.

Ain’t never earned nothing in their life but always hollering about someone taking something from them, sheesh



Yeap ,,, I got the good life . Its,was just handed to me . Lol


If you felt singled out by that it wasn’t the intention. That comment was a generalization and wasn’t intended at any particular person.



No sweat I got hide like leather . Lol

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: AU338MAG] #4069115
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by JustHunt
It’s amazing to me that most ,if not all, of those in favor of limiting the dates in the season are also those putting out thousands of pounds of corn and blasting deer off their feeder. Corn is the real issue that we are facing. I drive by a house the other day out in the country. In his approximately 1 acre lot he had a feeder 100 feet out his back door. This is happening all over this state.He is killing deer out of his backyard that would have lived before corn was legalized. But because corn makes it easy no one wants to get rid of it.

95% chance he was baiting before it was legal. I've seen illegal baiting since I started hunting in the early eighties.

Corn ain't the problem.

Hunters are the problem.

This thread is proof of that fact.


100 % chance there wasn’t a feeder in his backyard til corn was legalized. Most people didn’t have corn in their yards shooting deer until it was legal.
Sure there’s always been some people baiting when it wasn’t legal. I’ve hunted all over this state since the late 80’s and I just never saw the amount of corn that some of y’all say was out there. Out of all the places I’ve hunted I’ve only seen one group that were using corn. And that was in Perry county. That place is full of outlaws anyway.
Corn was not used in the capacity it is used now. Not even remotely close. But it makes those who use corn feel better when they say that it has.



Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4069125
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You guys need to remember yours problems ain't the same all over the state . I got deer out the a$$ here.. there are a lot of other places thats the same way .

Another thing sone of y'all want things you will never have .
I learned that many years ago when it comes to having huge bucks here. You kill one here that hit 120 you pretty much topped out .

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Turkey_neck] #4069138
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Originally Posted by Turkey_neck
Originally Posted by Mbrock
All y’all proposing no bow season can hush. 😂

Yeah I like bow season

You get bow season all yr. No need to get a special bow season. Kind of like every bow hunter gets a trophy. I only bow hunt at this point in life but know how much pressure bow hunting puts on property compared to gun hunting. No need in an extra month of bow season

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: AU338MAG] #4069152
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG


Corn ain't the problem.

Hunters are the problem.


That's like legalizing night hunting and then saying that it isnt the night hunting that's the problem, it's the hunters!!!

Again though, I think the idea that corn is gonna be outlawed again at this point is just not even remotely possible…..I agree that its causing an increase in harvest totals but you’re gonna have to come up with other solutions to balance that out. A restructuring of season dates is part of that solution

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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: RandanAL] #4069159
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Originally Posted by blade

For my little part of the world

All weapons legal: Saturday before Thanksgiving thru Saturday After
December 26- January 31


These types of proposals don’t really make much sense……Out of 190,000 being reported to Game Check, about 10,000 of them come in during bow season…..Cutting out bow season does nothing but take away opportunities for Alabama hunters with virtually zero benefit.
Yup. You could probably have year round bow TBH and not put a dent in the deer herd.


Nothing to do with making sense. Just what I wanted 🤣.

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4069172
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This went from date changes to corn………..Take away scopes shooting house ground blinds corn scents sxs tree stands. Slug guns only……. hunt January the rut is meat on the ground. Killing a buck that is trying to get lucky……..

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4069185
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Keep dates the same. Limit to 2 bucks instead of 3. Limit number of does to anything other than the current if its brown it’s down mentality.

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: AUbowhunter1990] #4069205
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Originally Posted by AUbowhunter1990
Keep dates the same. Limit to 2 bucks instead of 3. Limit number of does to anything other than the current if its brown it’s down mentality.


Reducing the limit to 2 when we don’t even enforce the limit of 3 wouldn’t make much sense in my opinion……The next step would be to issue tags and enforce the 3 rule we already have along with the restructuring of season dates……If further changes are needed then we look at adjusting doe days within the framework I suggested


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4069214
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by AUbowhunter1990
Keep dates the same. Limit to 2 bucks instead of 3. Limit number of does to anything other than the current if its brown it’s down mentality.


Reducing the limit to 2 when we don’t even enforce the limit of 3 wouldn’t make much sense in my opinion……The next step would be to issue tags and enforce the 3 rule we already have along with the restructuring of season dates……If further changes are needed then we look at adjusting doe days within the framework I suggested


No matter what great rules are created they’ll never be enforced because of the lack of personnel. You know how many carcasses are laying in Bankhead right now with the hams and backstraps cut out? Antlers if it had any. Never not a one game check filled out and killed by someone who didn’t have a license.

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Paint Rock 00] #4069215
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Originally Posted by Paint Rock 00
This went from date changes to corn………..Take away scopes shooting house ground blinds corn scents sxs tree stands. Slug guns only……. hunt January the rut is meat on the ground. Killing a buck that is trying to get lucky……..

It's always a shat show started by one person it is never ending crap


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: JustHunt] #4069219
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Originally Posted by JustHunt
It’s amazing to me that most ,if not all, of those in favor of limiting the dates in the season are also those putting out thousands of pounds of corn and blasting deer off their feeder. Corn is the real issue that we are facing. I drive by a house the other day out in the country. In his approximately 1 acre lot he had a feeder 100 feet out his back door. This is happening all over this state.He is killing deer out of his backyard that would have lived before corn was legalized. But because corn makes it easy no one wants to get rid of it.


I know a crap ton of people that feed deer in their back yard and never shoot a single one. They just like feeding deer and seeing deer.

First before anyone can agree on what needs to be done, everyone has to believe there is a problem, and everyone has to agree on what that problem is.

So what is the problem with the current situation in Alabama? I believe it is the age structure of bucks. I also believe the doe harvest rules are too liberal.

So to fix that… 1 buck a year with antler restrictions and 1 doe a year. The days of killing enough deer to feed your family for a year needs to go away.

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4069233
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I need some or that magic corn yall speak of that kills all the deer - i dont hav that type corn r tame deer - wish i did hav that type corn. My best deer has daylighted one single day to corn best i remember this year - wow - great odds 🤣🤣

Caught him in roads w no bait 3 times on cam. Its like that most years for me - if u get a 5 year old to show up one time in daylight where i hunt you doing good - regardless of how you do it and i go 4 - 6 weeks at times workout hunting a spot - now thats low pressure

CNC - i will talk to chuck n seenif we can get those dates past. I like what u did w zone B - but do dec 24 - its a holiday and good time to crank it back up 😀


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4069238
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by AU338MAG


Corn ain't the problem.

Hunters are the problem.


That's like legalizing night hunting and then saying that it isnt the night hunting that's the problem, it's the hunters!!!

Again though, I think the idea that corn is gonna be outlawed again at this point is just not even remotely possible…..I agree that its causing an increase in harvest totals but you’re gonna have to come up with other solutions to balance that out. A restructuring of season dates is part of that solution

So many of the states people call great deer hunting states have had legalized baiting for years. That's not the issue.

Some of these states have long hunting seasons, some don't. There's a reason for the shorter seasons in the Midwest and northern states - they have a much tighter rut window.

If Alabama made baiting illegal and shortened gun season to one month tomorrow, we still wouldn't notice a statistically significant difference in the age structure of our bucks. The vast majority of Alabama hunters can't control their booger hooker off the trigger when a 2 or 3 yo 8 pt walks by them. This lack of control would probably be worse with a shorter season. It will be the "I've only got four weeks so Im gonna blast the first racked buck I see" mentality.

I'm not advocating for hunting corn piles. I've never shot a deer in Alabama over a corn pile or feeder, but I have in other states.

IMO, we would improve hunting by overhauling the liberal doe harvest rules. Go back to a tag program for does and limit doe days to a two to three week period.


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4069246
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See and that’s where it can’t be a one size fits all. We do NOT need a reduction in doe says in our area. People already aren’t killing does and they’re everywhere. Nobody here complains about not seeing deer. That applies to most every county I work in in west central and north west AL. No one is advocating for fewer doe days here or for doe harvest to be limited. They didn’t during the 2 a day years either.

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Pwyse] #4069255
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by JustHunt
It’s amazing to me that most ,if not all, of those in favor of limiting the dates in the season are also those putting out thousands of pounds of corn and blasting deer off their feeder. Corn is the real issue that we are facing. I drive by a house the other day out in the country. In his approximately 1 acre lot he had a feeder 100 feet out his back door. This is happening all over this state.He is killing deer out of his backyard that would have lived before corn was legalized. But because corn makes it easy no one wants to get rid of it.


I know a crap ton of people that feed deer in their back yard and never shoot a single one. They just like feeding deer and seeing deer.

First before anyone can agree on what needs to be done, everyone has to believe there is a problem, and everyone has to agree on what that problem is.

So what is the problem with the current situation in Alabama? I believe it is the age structure of bucks. I also believe the doe harvest rules are too liberal.

So to fix that… 1 buck a year with antler restrictions and 1 doe a year. The days of killing enough deer to feed your family for a year needs to go away.


as some keep saying WE ALL dont have a problem . they cant blanket the whole state for local problems .

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Mbrock] #4069257
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
See and that’s where it can’t be a one size fits all. We do NOT need a reduction in doe says in our area. People already aren’t killing does and they’re everywhere. Nobody here complains about not seeing deer. That applies to most every county I work in in west central and north west AL. No one is advocating for fewer doe days here or for doe harvest to be limited. They didn’t during the 2 a day years either.



like Fred asked ,,,, does any body listen . lol

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Wish they would go to a 2 buck limit.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
I’d extend the buck season until whenever bucks start dropping racks


lol if we did that where I’d hunt you would be back cutting grass and be turkey hunting with a rifle

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Originally Posted by cgardner
Wish they would go to a 2 buck limit.

What do you think that will do? Make you see bucks? Mature your deer? 150in bucks? If you think any of that will happen you are living a dream


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