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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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308 would be my choice due to more choices in bullet weights and of course performance Yup
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Either one in a Model Seven is a match made in heaven.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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308/7mm08: That's like wondering if you should shovel your neighbor's dog turd off your lawn with a round or flat shovel.
You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Either one. They are almost exactly the same. .308 does have some more load offerings but they are essentially the same for most applications.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I own several 7-08. But would recommend 308 solely on ammo availability.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Im looking to move my son up from the 350L to a bolt gun in the near future, something he can use through his teenage years. Sounds like the 7mm-08 maybe the way to go, suppressed it should have much recoil at all. The new ruger american gen 2 looks like it may be a good fit with the adjustable LOP, he is currently shooting about 11" LOP on his AR. Im hoping ruger comes out with some different finished for it from what i saw online.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Look at the 6.5 grendel ballistics. Low recoil. Plenty of range. They are available in AR platforms, bolt action and single shot
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I own several 7-08. But would recommend 308 solely on ammo availability. Same here, can't go wrong with either.....the .308 ammo is readily available most to the time, where as you have to do some searching to find 7mm-08 ammo, depending on the brand and gr you are shooting....
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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The 7mm-08 is superior to the 308 for whitetail hunting IMO as long as you are shooting 140grain bullets in the 7mm-08. That's just based on experience killing a bunch with both calibers. 7mm-08 is a great whitetail round with some 140's. Otherwise you are turning it into a pea shooter.
Don't turn your deer rifle into a pea shooter. Especially if you are shooting it with a can or break on it. I don't understand why everyone, including kids can shoot a 20ga shotgun just fine but as soon as they pickup a deer rifle they become a complete puss and start crying about recoil. Otherwise there is absolutely ZERO reason to be shooting light loads. ZERO.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Serious question-
Why NOT get a 6.5 Creedmoor instead?
Pros- Cheaper factory ammo Greater factory hunting ammo availability Greater factory match ammo availability Flatter trajectory Less Recoil Greater brass availability by numerous reputable companies Cheaper brass Ability to use large or small rifle primers Factory rifles have the proper twist rate to optimize ballistic efficiency (higher BC & SD) Greater selection of factory rifles chambered in 6.5 creed
Cons- Uneducated boomers will ridicule you Uneducated boomers will assume you wear a flat brim hat The checkout guy at Walmart will think you own a sniper rifle
I’m sure I missed a few but you get the idea. Zero reason to purchase a 308 or 7-08 over a 6.5 creed nowadays unless you already have the ammo and/or components for the 308 or 7-08.
Disclaimer- I don’t currently own a 7-08, 308 or 6.5 creed b/c a 6mm creedmoor and a 6GT kills deer as good (or better) inside of 500 yards and does it with less recoil.
You're only as good as your worst shot-
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I have 4 7-08’s, they’ve all shot well with 140 gr bullets. With that said, I have just as many 308 rifles. Either one really, idk if there’s a dimes bit of difference. 308 prob has better ammo choices but 7-08 is readily available.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I've killed a bunch with both. I toted a A-bolt II in 7-08 from about 2002 till 2010, then went to a .308 Model 75 Finnlight, been toting it for 14 years . They are both fine whitetail rounds , and both worked great for me. I'll throw out some info. 308 is a great round , inherently accurate , wide range of bullets weights and easy to find ammo. I like 150-165 ish grain bullets. Great woods caliber . 7-08 is also great . has less choices for bullet weights than 308 , ammo not as easy to find. I like 140ish in 7-08. Little better long range than the 308. Perhaps a tad lighter recoil . You can't go wrong with either , if you have shots longer than 300 yards I'd lean towards the 7-08, otherwise , flip a coin .
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Disclaimer- I don’t currently own a 7-08, 308 or 6.5 creed b/c a 6mm creedmoor and a 6GT kills deer as good (or better) inside of 500 yards and does it with less recoil. Although I do have a 7-08, 308, and 6.5 Creedmoor, I recently started hunting with a 223 because of the killing power inside of 500 yards and low recoil. 👍
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Disclaimer- I don’t currently own a 7-08, 308 or 6.5 creed b/c a 6mm creedmoor and a 6GT kills deer as good (or better) inside of 500 yards and does it with less recoil. Although I do have a 7-08, 308, and 6.5 Creedmoor, I recently started hunting with a 223 because of the killing power inside of 500 yards and low recoil. 👍 Keep on…and you’ll cause the 🐐killa to have a stroke!! If ain’t at least 140grs you are severely under gunned😁
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Women and Kids.... Yes.
Grown ass men on Aldeer... Nope.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I wouldn't pick either one for u both are fine cartridges and both will do the same thing. I like the 7mm08 but the 308 is just as good. You will be happy with either
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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308. Difference trajectory is not enough to matter. With a 200 yard 0 The 308 will hit within an inch of 7-08 at 300. 7-08 is lighter recoil. But really, just about anyone can handle either, including women and kids. Go with the bigger hole. I agree Id go with the .30 caliber all day. I reload so there is so much more to work with there.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out perform a 308 in you know the right data.
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My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform...
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Hell, I don't know. That's just what I've been told. I've killed a bunch with a 7-08 though.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Hell, I don't know. That's just what I've been told. I've killed a bunch with a 7-08 though. Not a dime's difference between them when killing critters.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Hold the fluff and pass me the .358Win please, thank you. I’ve got 7-08’s and 308’s and reach right past them for big brother and if I’m shooting long range there are better hammers for that nail.
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement X3, I'd like to listen in on that .
"Why do you ask"?
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement X3, I'd like to listen in on that . If I had to guess, they probably talking about down range velocity and wind drift. 🤷🏼♂️
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement X3, I'd like to listen in on that . It would be a lot of ballistic gack BS. My first rifle which was my only rifle for many years was a Ruger tanger 7x57, essentially a 7 08. It WAS loaded very hot, 3000+ FPS with a 22 in barrel, which is it least 100+ FPS faster than your should push 140 gr bullets in that gun. Killed dozens of deer with that gun and it works great, but it's mainly just a safe queen these days. I finally purchased a 308 about 10 years ago and it kills great as well.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I love the 7mm-08 but ammo can be a pain to find sometimes
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Women and Kids.... Yes.
Grown ass men on Aldeer... Nope.
So now a 7-08 and 308 aren't enough gun for pine goats anymore either ? Come on man y'all are on here daily crying in your Cheerios about recoil. If y'all could actually handle the .308... which is a big "if".... 1/2 y'all would we trying to shoot a 100 grain short jacket talking about it don't kick bad. FACTS are what I'm pointing out. .243 sprinkled with fairy dust kinda facts. You'll shoot your eye out with a Kids and Wimmens 7-08 but it's a dam goodun with some 140's.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Women and Kids.... Yes.
Grown ass men on Aldeer... Nope.
So now a 7-08 and 308 aren't enough gun for pine goats anymore either ? Come on man y'all are on here daily crying in your Cheerios about recoil. If y'all could actually handle the .308... which is a big "if".... 1/2 y'all would we trying to shoot a 100 grain short jacket talking about it don't kick bad. FACTS are what I'm pointing out. .243 sprinkled with fairy dust kinda facts. You'll shoot your eye out with a Kids and Wimmens 7-08 but it's a dam goodun with some 140's. Believe it or not I shoot 150's ELDX's in mine. They shoot too well to change.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Have y'all ever heard of Ammoseek.com?
Hundreds of listings for 7mm-08 ammo, starting at less than $20 per box. It got scarce for a while during Covid, but we typically stack 6-10 boxes once we find a load that a particular rifle likes.
Also checked a few specific brands. 67 listings for Barnes, 123 for Nosler, 169 for Federal, and 448 for Hornady. Doesn't look very hard to find at this point.
Regarding the 6.5 creed suggestion, I was on a large ranch in South Texas a few weeks ago. They have a minimum caliber requirement of .270 or larger. I asked how serious they were about that, as I wanted to shoot a .25-06. The response was, "as long as it isn't a creedmoor, we're good. We got tired of calling a dog every time a hunter used a creedmoor."
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Have y'all ever heard of Ammoseek.com?
Hundreds of listings for 7mm-08 ammo, starting at less than $20 per box. It got scarce for a while during Covid, but we typically stack 6-10 boxes once we find a load that a particular rifle likes.
Also checked a few specific brands. 67 listings for Barnes, 123 for Nosler, 169 for Federal, and 448 for Hornady. Doesn't look very hard to find at this point.
Regarding the 6.5 creed suggestion, I was on a large ranch in South Texas a few weeks ago. They have a minimum caliber requirement of .270 or larger. I asked how serious they were about that, as I wanted to shoot a .25-06. The response was, "as long as it isn't a creedmoor, we're good. We got tired of calling a dog every time a hunter used a creedmoor."
X2 on ammoseek. That's where I get most of my ammo.
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I’m not too concerned about any differences between the 7-08 and 308… or them and 243/260/creedmoor for deer. They’re all far more than enough gun for the biggest deer in the south. I’m more concerned with folks that run their mouth far better than they can run their guns. If folks could shoot AND took decent shots, 22 hornets probably wouldn’t need tracking dogs too much. The same folks that’d fight over any 260 that’d popup for sale here, will spend all night trashing the creedmoor between sips of their bud light. It’ll kill deer just as good as any other short action chambering out there….and has more going for it than a lot of stuff. I like rifles and I like to shoot good bullets from them into the right places. I don’t sweat what caseheads say on them. I don’t walk past a heckuva rifle, just because it’s a creedmoor instead of a 308, and I wouldn’t do it for a 7-08 either. I don’t think I need a 270/06/280 or anything with a belt or magnum in the name to kill a deer. If I like the rifle, I don’t really care if it’s one of those, either. I’m not recoil shy, but suppressors or common sense mean I don’t deal with a lot of it if I don’t have to, either. Just my thoughts every time I see a thread about cartridges.
It’s damn near impossible for folks to lose a deer because of the chambering of the rifle. It’s highly possible to lose one over a bad choice in bullet or shot placement. It’s almost always the nut behind the trigger.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I’m not too concerned about any differences between the 7-08 and 308… or them and 243/260/creedmoor for deer. They’re all far more than enough gun for the biggest deer in the south. I’m more concerned with folks that run their mouth far better than they can run their guns. If folks could shoot AND took decent shots, 22 hornets probably wouldn’t need tracking dogs too much. The same folks that’d fight over any 260 that’d popup for sale here, will spend all night trashing the creedmoor between sips of their bud light. It’ll kill deer just as good as any other short action chambering out there….and has more going for it than a lot of stuff. I like rifles and I like to shoot good bullets from them into the right places. I don’t sweat what caseheads say on them. I don’t walk past a heckuva rifle, just because it’s a creedmoor instead of a 308, and I wouldn’t do it for a 7-08 either. I don’t think I need a 270/06/280 or anything with a belt or magnum in the name to kill a deer. If I like the rifle, I don’t really care if it’s one of those, either. I’m not recoil shy, but suppressors or common sense mean I don’t deal with a lot of it if I don’t have to, either. Just my thoughts every time I see a thread about cartridges.
It’s damn near impossible for folks to lose a deer because of the chambering of the rifle. It’s highly possible to lose one over a bad choice in bullet or shot placement. It’s almost always the nut behind the trigger. Lota truth! When I read the first few sentences I thought , "smart ass rant ." After reading the whole post I'd label it just a "smart rant."
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My buddy's that reload tell me you can make a 7-08 out preform a 308 in you know the right data. Define outperform... Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement X3, I'd like to listen in on that . This is absolutely a true statement, and you don't even need any mysterious "right data" even factory ammo will quickly prove that the 7mm-8 is ballistically superior to the 308. If you take similar-weight bullets from each cartridge, the 7-08 will drop less, drift less and will retain more energy and velocity than the 308. as I said earlier though, for deer hunting in the south you will never notice the difference. both are fine cartridges.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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When I first started shooting matches the 7mm-08 was still a wildcat. The reason it caught my eye was that I loved a 7x57 rifle I had built and it was very accurate and I was hoping to replicate that with the 7-08 and pretty much did they are almost ballistic twins. Accuracy wise 7-08 vs 308 they are about the same... both very good. You have to get out to 700+ yards IMO to really start talking about any ballistic advantage between the two. There is really no real world advantage to 7-08 at your typical hunting yardages IMO. You get a very slight reduction in recoil and that's about it.
You take both. Get out 2 boxes of Sierra bullets. Load the .308 with a 165 and the 7-08 with a 140. In either this will kill the crap out of any whitetail you come across with ZERO issue. That is a 1 and done loading for any rifle chambered in these as long as you can get the gun to shoot which has never been a problem for me with these two cartridges. May have run across 1-2 crappy guns but this has never been these loads fault.
I've killed a train car load of deer with both of these. No magnum needed... If you want a no-nonsense proven all around whitetail killer for our woods..... this is it.
Flip a coin you can't go wrong with either IMO as long as you shoot the right bullet weight.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Everything the goat said is right on except the 700 yards. 7-08 will start pulling away between 100-200 yards. I’ve got no dog in the fight, I just love studying ballistics. Any deer down here will never know the difference between the two There is a touch of a difference if you're punching paper. But I have never attempted a 700 yard shot while hunting. If I were going out that far I'd be toting a over bore 30 cal.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Everything the goat said is right on except the 700 yards. 7-08 will start pulling away between 100-200 yards. I’ve got no dog in the fight, I just love studying ballistics. Any deer down here will never know the difference between the two There is a touch of a difference if you're punching paper. But I have never attempted a 700 yard shot while hunting. If I were going out that far I'd be toting a over bore 30 cal. Agreed! I'd definitely want something overbore for those kind of distances also!
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I was just speaking to the real world not necessarily what happens on paper. You really don't see a whole lot until you are out past 500 IMO....... But to your point it is there all the way. It starts to matter to me when the spread is 12+ inches. That's why I shot 7-08 vs 308. Every little bit counts way out there IMO.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I was just speaking to the real world not necessarily what happens on paper. You really don't see a whole lot until you are out past 500 IMO....... But to your point it is there all the way. That's why I shot 7-08 vs 308. Every little bit counts way out there IMO. Fair enough, you definitely do have to wait till 500-ish to start seeing significant (triple-digit) improvements in velocity or energy.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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My vote is for 7mm-08, with 140 grain bullets. As always, shot placement is key with any deer you are shooting. Broadside in the crease with my 7-08 equals a dead deer every single time I’ve pulled the trigger.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I have both. Deer dont know the difference between the two. For some reason though i almost always reach for my 7-08 over my 308 in same model rifle. The cant find 7-08 ammo has been a non issue for me but, im not the type that waits till almost end of bow season to go buy one box of shells. Ive stocked up when i found good deals and most of my stash of 7-08 ammo probably averages out to about $17 a box.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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The only reason I don’t own a 7-08 is because every time I was in the market for a new rifle, I never could find one in a left handed bolt action. Same reason I never owned a 30-06. Always found the .308s in left hand on the rack. Hence the reason for my 308s. The next time I get a wild hair, I will try to be patient and find the 7-08 or if I’m really feeling crazy, I’ll try to find a left handed 6.5 or 7mm PRC.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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The only reason I don’t own a 7-08 is because every time I was in the market for a new rifle, I never could find one in a left handed bolt action. Same reason I never owned a 30-06. Always found the .308s in left hand on the rack. Hence the reason for my 308s. The next time I get a wild hair, I will try to be patient and find the 7-08 or if I’m really feeling crazy, I’ll try to find a left handed 6.5 or 7mm PRC. LH 7-08 is tough , my son has a Browning A bolt II micro Hunter. He now totes a LH Tikka T3 lite .308. It's a right handed world.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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.308... easy to get ammo. I have 4 deer on the wall killed at 200+ yds. with a .308/ 150 grain corelokts. Bolt and Lever guns. Just my .02
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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7mm-08. That’s what I started my son on when he was a kid. Never lost a deer. Mrs. Bamaeyedoc shoots a Browning A-bolt Medallion in 7-08. It’s a beautiful gun that is as accurate as it is pretty. She finally got to dent a primer last week with it. 140gr Core-Lokt blew a fist-sized exit wound on an 8pt at 100 yards. It was a heart shot and the blood trail was massive. Ammo was a little tough to find a bit ago but seems in good supply now. I may take that gun out next year just because it feels so good and is a tack driver.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I have 2 Ruger carbines, one is a stainless laminate in 7-08, the other is a blue 308, which weighs 4 oz less. They both came with a rubber butt pad.
The 7-08 I can shoot all day long off a bench and it doesn't bother me, but the 308 is a different animal. I don't really have an explanation for why. I had Gundoc bed it and add a recoil pad, so its much nicer now.
I didn't like paying a $10 premium for 7-08 ammo, but if you load your own a 120 gr NBT is bad juju on a deer. Mine shoots it sub moa with 48 gr of H414. Lolol 🤣 If y'all picked 7-08 your a fagot.lol Pretty much your gay or zero common sense. Just poking fun but truth. Military cartridge with heavier bullets no brainier. If y'all have 13 rifles and picked a 7-08 just for hell of it ok otherwise your gay lol Seriously Again poking fun I don't care but dang.i cant believe that oh wait yes I can. It's typical guys can't make good decisions.lol Someone told me one was better ballisticly better what ever that means.😜 See it all the time They don't know what it means Stirring pot don't get but hurt. they all kill deer but 308 is smartest pick for many reasons
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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I have 2 Ruger carbines, one is a stainless laminate in 7-08, the other is a blue 308, which weighs 4 oz less. They both came with a rubber butt pad.
The 7-08 I can shoot all day long off a bench and it doesn't bother me, but the 308 is a different animal. I don't really have an explanation for why. I had Gundoc bed it and add a recoil pad, so its much nicer now.
I didn't like paying a $10 premium for 7-08 ammo, but if you load your own a 120 gr NBT is bad juju on a deer. Mine shoots it sub moa with 48 gr of H414. Lolol 🤣 If y'all picked 7-08 your a fagot.lol Pretty much your gay or zero common sense. Just poking fun but truth. Military cartridge with heavier bullets no brainier. If y'all have 13 rifles and picked a 7-08 just for hell of it ok otherwise your gay lol Seriously Again poking fun I don't care but dang.i cant believe that oh wait yes I can. It's typical guys can't make good decisions.lol Someone told me one was better ballisticly better what ever that means.😜 See it all the time They don't know what it means Stirring pot don't get but hurt. they all kill deer but 308 is smartest pick for many reasons Trying to read one of your posts is worse than working with my brother’s kids.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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^^ that is called drunk posting. It also has consequences I don’t know why but if I turn my phone sideways, his screen name is pink. 😂
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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Oh, and if someone is curious about the kind of blood trail the lil 7mm-08 leaves, pm me with number. I wish I knew how to post a video.
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Re: 7mm-08 or 308?
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You can always tell when old 3% gets in the sauce. I wish the sauce made him spell better.
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