Define outperform...

Yeah I'd like to talk to his buddy's about that statement

X3, I'd like to listen in on that .

Women and Kids.... Yes.

Grown ass men on Aldeer... Nope.

X3, I'd like to listen in on that .

So now a 7-08 and 308 aren't enough gun for pine goats anymore either ? Come on man

y'all are on here daily crying in your Cheerios about recoil. If y'all could actually handle the .308... which is a big "if".... 1/2 y'all would we trying to shoot a 100 grain short jacket talking about it don't kick bad.

FACTS are what I'm pointing out. .243 sprinkled with fairy dust kinda facts.

You'll shoot your eye out with a Kids and Wimmens 7-08 but it's a dam goodun with some 140's.

Have y'all ever heard of Ammoseek.com?

Hundreds of listings for 7mm-08 ammo, starting at less than $20 per box. It got scarce for a while during Covid, but we typically stack 6-10 boxes once we find a load that a particular rifle likes.

Also checked a few specific brands. 67 listings for Barnes, 123 for Nosler, 169 for Federal, and 448 for Hornady. Doesn't look very hard to find at this point.

Regarding the 6.5 creed suggestion, I was on a large ranch in South Texas a few weeks ago. They have a minimum caliber requirement of .270 or larger. I asked how serious they were about that, as I wanted to shoot a .25-06. The response was, "as long as it isn't a creedmoor, we're good. We got tired of calling a dog every time a hunter used a creedmoor."

I’m not too concerned about any differences between the 7-08 and 308… or them and 243/260/creedmoor for deer. They’re all far more than enough gun for the biggest deer in the south. I’m more concerned with folks that run their mouth far better than they can run their guns. If folks could shoot AND took decent shots, 22 hornets probably wouldn’t need tracking dogs too much. The same folks that’d fight over any 260 that’d popup for sale here, will spend all night trashing the creedmoor between sips of their bud light. It’ll kill deer just as good as any other short action chambering out there….and has more going for it than a lot of stuff. I like rifles and I like to shoot good bullets from them into the right places. I don’t sweat what caseheads say on them. I don’t walk past a heckuva rifle, just because it’s a creedmoor instead of a 308, and I wouldn’t do it for a 7-08 either. I don’t think I need a 270/06/280 or anything with a belt or magnum in the name to kill a deer. If I like the rifle, I don’t really care if it’s one of those, either. I’m not recoil shy, but suppressors or common sense mean I don’t deal with a lot of it if I don’t have to, either. Just my thoughts every time I see a thread about cartridges.

It’s damn near impossible for folks to lose a deer because of the chambering of the rifle. It’s highly possible to lose one over a bad choice in bullet or shot placement. It’s almost always the nut behind the trigger.

X3, I'd like to listen in on that .