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Do Timber companies allow corn?? #4060357
01/13/24 05:53 PM
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I was told today the Westervelt Timber does not allow corn on their leases. Is that the case with all Timber companies?


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Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: Happysappy] #4060413
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No baiting whatsoever on Westervelt. That includes minerals.


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Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: Happysappy] #4060537
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I’m sure everyone obeys that rule


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Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: Happysappy] #4060562
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I feel it has had an impact on our resident deer herd. 2 years agoI saw lots of deer, last year (first year of bait ban) fewer deer, this year I have seen 6 deer all season

I don’t hunt over corn, but I do believe it helps hold them on the property

Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: Happysappy] #4060567
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Each company sets its own standards outlined in the lease agreement.

Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #4060636
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Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
I’m sure everyone obeys that rule


Westervelt will yank your lease in a heartbeat if you’re found in violation.


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Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: Happysappy] #4060656
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I was having the Westervelt no feeding conversation with someone last night. If you’ve got neighbors that are on a good feed program and you’re not feeding, they are gonna take a toll on your deer herd. With the few CWD cases seen in Alabama, does it seem Westervelt possibly made a knee jerk reaction? Plus, you now have the deer herding that much more on the neighbors property. Did they defeat the purpose? Would it have been better to continue feeding to spread the deer out? Just some thoughts.

Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: Happysappy] #4060793
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That and the state’s whole CWD plan is a knee jerk reaction.


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Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: Happysappy] #4060978
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I lease from Westervelt. We still have a buncha deer and actually had one of our best years this year. I personally hope they never allow corn again on their property. I wish the state would ban it all but it’s become too much of a cash cow for that to happen.



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Another thing to add is westervelt fought against legalizing corn to begin with. They were just looking for a reason to ban it on their property.



Re: Do Timber companies allow corn?? [Re: Happysappy] #4061011
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I lease from Weyerhaeuser , the adjacent track is Westervelt. I was talking to the guy that leases the Westervelt track, he asked my if we put out corn. I told him yes, we have several feeders on ours. He was so pissed when he found out ours is a Weyerhaeuser track. He said when Westervelt outlawed corn (strictly enforced) they told him every timber company in the state had done the same. I told him ours didn’t. I imagine his timber manager got an ear full….


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Originally Posted by Happysappy
I lease from Weyerhaeuser , the adjacent track is Westervelt. I was talking to the guy that leases the Westervelt track, he asked my if we put out corn. I told him yes, we have several feeders on ours. He was so pissed when he found out ours is a Weyerhaeuser track. He said when Westervelt outlawed corn (strictly enforced) they told him every timber company in the state had done the same. I told him ours didn’t. I imagine his timber manager got an ear full….


The letter that all leaseholders received made no mention of anyone but them outlawing corn. Apparently he didn’t read his very well. I love it being banned



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I wish they’d ban it at our place. Good for killing does and hogs I guess

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Originally Posted by JustHunt
I wish the state would ban it all but it’s become too much of a cash cow for that to happen.


They could ban it and there will still be corn/feed on most properties. There was before baiting was legal so ya know it will be no different

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Originally Posted by DudeWithaBow
I wish they’d ban it at our place. Good for killing does and hogs I guess


if someone can't kill a buck over bait, somethings wrong...

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Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by JustHunt
I wish the state would ban it all but it’s become too much of a cash cow for that to happen.


They could ban it and there will still be corn/feed on most properties. There was before baiting was legal so ya know it will be no different


Definitely would happen. But I consider someone who’d do that no different than a poacher. Breaking the law is breaking the law. But we don’t have to worry bout that. Baiting has brought so much money to the state that it will never be banned. We’d have to have 100 cases of cwd in every county for them to even consider it. It used to be one of the things the state would ban if cwd was ever found. Money rules tho.



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Originally Posted by JustHunt
Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by JustHunt
I wish the state would ban it all but it’s become too much of a cash cow for that to happen.


They could ban it and there will still be corn/feed on most properties. There was before baiting was legal so ya know it will be no different


Definitely would happen. But I consider someone who’d do that no different than a poacher. Breaking the law is breaking the law. But we don’t have to worry bout that. Baiting has brought so much money to the state that it will never be banned. We’d have to have 100 cases of cwd in every county for them to even consider it. It used to be one of the things the state would ban if cwd was ever found. Money rules tho.

I know it'll happen, I spent 9yrs total flying out of Mobile on helos, amazing how much "yellow" we spotted from the air... Those permits do make money. Funny how Oregon and Washington don't charge us to bait but, I go home and need a baiting permit.


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