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Re: Scope mounting - reset every year? [Re: Bustinbeards] #4027647
11/29/23 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bustinbeards
No this is not normal.

Re: Scope mounting - reset every year? [Re: 1bamashooter] #4027687
11/29/23 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Are your rings torqued to spec? If you have them cranked down compressing the tube it can effect erector movement


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Re: Scope mounting - reset every year? [Re: Beer Belly] #4027726
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One thing to check If you think your scope is off, is the action screws. Most of your quality mounts these days don't move if installed correctly. But I shoot my rifles a lot even during deer season trying out different bullets, powder and headspace ECT I've noticed my action screws need to be torqued 2-3 times a year. Why I'm not sure. My better stocks don't seem to need it as much, but this synthetic on my weatherby does..
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Re: Scope mounting - reset every year? [Re: Beer Belly] #4027996
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Something isn't right. I have a 25 y/o Leopold vari x 3 on Leopold mounts that haven't been touched since I sighted it in 25 years ago. It's been dropped about 8 ft out of a tree and landed on the scope.

Re: Scope mounting - reset every year? [Re: Beer Belly] #4028016
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly

About every year I have to move my scope ~3-4 inches to get back on zero. I use blue locktite on my screws and torque to the correct settings per mfg. Is this normal for most folks, or just me and other city folks.


If you have to "re zero" your scope from year to year, you are experiencing optical failures. There is nothing preventing that same thing from occurring while you're out hunting- in fact, when a rifle is being used, it's more likely to experience a failure like this.

Hate to be that guy, but it's likely your scope. Vortex gives great deals out regularly, but honestly, their reliability is low for most models. Look into a Trijicon Huron or Burris Veracity. Also, before you add your loctite to the threads of your screws, make sure to degrease *every single* metallic surface of the rings, bases and receiver that will be touching each other, including the screws. Sometimes leftover oil from the manufacturer can cause screws to loosen.

Re: Scope mounting - reset every year? [Re: Beer Belly] #4028055
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Just to pile on AND as everyone has stated. Something is VERY seriously wrong with your scope and/or rings. With the exception of maybe a click or two with different bullets, I couldn't tell you the last time I was WAY off.

To eliminate the obvious:

1. Is the scope touching the barrel of the gun (bases too short)? This will cause erratic sighting in and VERY unpredictable shooting in different temperatures.
2. Are they the right size rings for the scope? 30mm vs. 1"
3. Did the person who originally installed the rings and scope use shims?
4. Is everything tightened correctly and to the correct specifications?
5. Are the screws or threads stripped?

If the answers are: No, Yes, No, Yes, and No - then throw the scope in the trash and get another scope.


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Re: Scope mounting - reset every year? [Re: 2Dogs] #4028340
11/30/23 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
I don't ever remember one being off like that. I've had some that haven't been touched in 10-15 years.
I dropped a Leupold on an A-Bolt out of a tree several years ago , it put a dent in an adjustment cap and broke a flip up cover. I went to the range , it hadn't moved any , none, nota . I hunted with it for years and never touched it till I swapped it to another rifle.


I've never put "glue" under my mounts , but do use purple loctite ( for small screws).

I don't understand waxing the barrel so the epoxy wouldn't stick . Doesn't that defeat the purpose ? confused

I think he is referring to "bedding the mounts" with epoxy so the fit is perfect. When you do that, you wax the receiver so the epoxy sticks to the mounts only. You then remove the mounts, clean up the receiver then install the custom bedded mounts with screws and loctite.. This eliminates any non-contact surfaces between the mounts and the receiver.

Re: Scope mounting - reset every year? [Re: daylate] #4028552
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Originally Posted by daylate
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
I don't ever remember one being off like that. I've had some that haven't been touched in 10-15 years.
I dropped a Leupold on an A-Bolt out of a tree several years ago , it put a dent in an adjustment cap and broke a flip up cover. I went to the range , it hadn't moved any , none, nota . I hunted with it for years and never touched it till I swapped it to another rifle.


I've never put "glue" under my mounts , but do use purple loctite ( for small screws).

I don't understand waxing the barrel so the epoxy wouldn't stick . Doesn't that defeat the purpose ? confused

I think he is referring to "bedding the mounts" with epoxy so the fit is perfect. When you do that, you wax the receiver so the epoxy sticks to the mounts only. You then remove the mounts, clean up the receiver then install the custom bedded mounts with screws and loctite.. This eliminates any non-contact surfaces between the mounts and the receiver.


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